And yeah the foveated rendering on the Aero is the bread and butter of performance
And yeah the foveated rendering on the Aero is the bread and butter of performance
JAnd how they make the most out of the high res very clear lenses
JAnother thing to consider is PC hardware. Are you on at least a 3080 with a decent CPU? Also you need to be using Nvidia GPU for the Aero, not sure about BSB.
Aanyway I wouldn't buy BSB for myself, but I think it's fantastic that someone is already making a VR headset with such a small form factor
BIts even higher res, without the option for dfr, 4090 or dont bother.
FWait, you mean static or eye tracked
JThe amount of variety in headset shape, design philosophy, and features available on the market right now is great for the industry as a whole.
FAlso i am not 100% sure but i remember the aero had more ppd in the center than the edges, correct?
AI think you might be referring to the pro version
Ait has two separate screens, one for the center
AI don't think the aero does anything like that
FI think i remember 35ppd in center and like 20 on edge
FBut that might be lens warping
FPlus that was something from a while ago
Aat least with pimax the lens warping actually compresses the center, which is not ideal
AI don't know how it's on aero
BUntil good pancakes came, optical claeiry around the edges would be closer to 5 than anything.
FThe crystal? Havent heard anything like that
FI heard it had great edge to edge clarity, better than pico 4
JIt has eye tracking, and its built in software renders stuff based on where you look. The eye tracking cameras run at 200hz. So the image will always be clearest where you look. You can adjust how clear by changing the PPD in the software, which obv needs more GPU the higher you go
The Aero has a smaller 'sweet spot' than other headsets like the Index, but it also has a lower FOV which contributes to this smaller sweet spot.
The image might seem 'blurry' on the edges because that is partially how foveated rendering based on eye tracking looks. Directly where your eyes are pointing will look clearest. Peripheral will start to look a bit blurry.
Here is an example of what foveated rendering looks like, on the PSVR2 in No Man's Sky, one of the only PSVR2 games to support it currently: https://twitter.com/PSVRUnderground/status/1698745249756053538
The Aero has a smaller 'sweet spot' than other headsets like the Index, but it also has a lower FOV which contributes to this smaller sweet spot.
The image might seem 'blurry' on the edges because that is partially how foveated rendering based on eye tracking looks. Directly where your eyes are pointing will look clearest. Peripheral will start to look a bit blurry.
Here is an example of what foveated rendering looks like, on the PSVR2 in No Man's Sky, one of the only PSVR2 games to support it currently: https://twitter.com/PSVRUnderground/status/1698745249756053538
AI'm using the 8kx
JI should also mention there is a distinct difference between a game that has DFR and a headset software using it
Athe very wide fow is problematic in many ways, one of which is the way you need to warp the picture
FI know how it looks like, but is the edge clarity fine if you look at the edges in the headset or is lens warping an issue?
JThe lenses aren't large enough for it to have warping
FI see. I am keeping an eye out for crystal/12k stuff for when i have the money so assumed you were talking about that.
JAlso, adjusting the PPD changes how close or far the lenses are from your eyes'
BPico 4 is quite disappointing, the lenses on the pro for instance is massively better.
Jso higher PPD pushes the lenses away from your eyes
A12kx will likely have similar issues
FThe screen isnt the best yeah, but the clarity is quite decent for the price
JAnother big factor is the version of Varjo base software you are running. A lot of visual issues that were present at HMD release have been resolved in newer versions of the software. So ideally after setting up the headset and doing a firmware update, most if not all issues should be resolved
JThe main one you'll see people complain about is chromatic aberration
JAnd there's lots of github based tweaks that can help eliminate this
FDepends on if the fov will actually be similar to 8kx, as they advertised 130h for pimax but its actually around 100
J^ So basically most issues you might encounter with Varjo Aero have fixes, which you can find in the Varjo discord
JAnyway back on topic of headset x vs y,
I personally own a Valve Index, Quest 2, and pre ordered a Quest 3 for work. Having used an Aero, I'm content to stick with my Index for the time being. Perhaps Quest 3 will work well on PC and be better than Index in some ways (hello full color/depth mixed reality for flight sim cockpit), but either way with the devices at my disposal all my needs are met for the foreseeable future.
If I had $3500+ lying around and a GPU better than a 3080, I'd love to get highest end Somnium VR1, which is basically the Varjo XR-3 but cheaper. Has eye tracking, hand tracking, full color depth mixed reality passthrough, etc.
I personally own a Valve Index, Quest 2, and pre ordered a Quest 3 for work. Having used an Aero, I'm content to stick with my Index for the time being. Perhaps Quest 3 will work well on PC and be better than Index in some ways (hello full color/depth mixed reality for flight sim cockpit), but either way with the devices at my disposal all my needs are met for the foreseeable future.
If I had $3500+ lying around and a GPU better than a 3080, I'd love to get highest end Somnium VR1, which is basically the Varjo XR-3 but cheaper. Has eye tracking, hand tracking, full color depth mixed reality passthrough, etc.
FI dont know the resolution of the vr1, but 3080 might be more capable than you think. Im running pico 4 at 3120x3120 in dcs vr cause of compression (more pixels=better image) and i get ~60fps in the air, 40 on the ground with a 3090
Jdual 2880 x 2880 screens
FAnd I recently found out my 12600k is bottlenecking it, gpubusy was 13~15ms, actual frametime ~18 if that says anything to you
JA World Beyond Reality
FThis is dual 3120x3120 btw
JThey've not announced pricing yet, but its expected to be pretty expensive for highest end (possibly Apple Vision Pro pricing)
FThat is quite the price then
JAnyway, I don't have money lying around anyway, which is why Somnium is hypothetical purchase for me 
FFair enough
JI won't be getting a new headset until after I upgrade my PC, which will probably turn into building a new PC. I'm on a 5950x right now but its broken and I have to run it on manual clocks which loses me a lot of performance I would otherwise get from having PBO etc. enabled. Works well enough for the basic stuff I do, and not much point in replacing the CPU, nor upgrading to latest since new stuff will be out soon enough. Not upgrading GPU until new Nvidia stuff is out which is probably 2 years out.
So by time new GPUs are out there will be at least 1 new generation of CPUs out I could upgrade to and build a whole new rig.
So by time new GPUs are out there will be at least 1 new generation of CPUs out I could upgrade to and build a whole new rig.
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RHINO #0209 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0209 Has Shipped!BAnd those would need 50% supersampling on top. DFR and dlss will finally help, but to a somewhat unknown degree.
Fis this some kind of "if you have to ask for the price you can't afford it" deals?
J? Just look at their twitter feed. Isn't even up for pre order yet. Just reservations. Isn't close enough to release yet.