I'm at my wit's end with DCS crashing on me. Does this log file look like TelemFFB might be an issue

I'm at my wit's end with DCS crashing on me. Does this log file look like TelemFFB might be an issue for some reason? I have tried everything!

dcs.log457.91KB

Teeks•3/21/24, 9:03 AM

Running a quest (2, 3 or Pro) ?

VPforceBot•3/21/24, 9:29 AM

:package:

RHINO #0455 Has Shipped!

Pikas62•3/21/24, 10:16 AM

What thread size and thread pitch does the Rhino stick mount have? I would like to replace it with one made of aluminum.

PPikas62 What thread size and thread pitch does the Rhino stick mount have? I would like ...

walmis•3/21/24, 10:20 AM

M36x2.0 - I will soon have an optional replacement/upgrade for that part machined out of aluminum.

Wwalmis M36x2.0 - I will soon have an optional replacement/upgrade for that part machine...

Virus•3/21/24, 10:37 AM

do you think to offer also aluminum gimble or is it the Rhino's one strong enough?

SStains I'm at my wit's end with DCS crashing on me. Does this log file look like TelemF...

Number481•3/21/24, 11:34 AM

I would say not. Simply because there are so many other errors in that file. There are errors also relating to:

Mod files
Core textures
Core sound files
Sim Shaker export script

You said you tried everything, but I don't know what that means to you so I'll ask:

Have you tried removing all mods?
Have you tried renaming your save games folder so DCS creates a new one and test with that?
Have you tried a slow repair?

There's so many errors relating to core game stuff that it makes me think there is either a bad conflict with some mod or corrupted game files.

This warning early on, before any errors start seems suspect to me.. Probably a red herring, but a synax error in a mod that touches core functionality (I don't have a clue what this mod does) could certainly wreak havoc....

2024-03-21 03:18:27.081 INFO    Scripting (Main): OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in C:\Users\james\Saved Games\DCS\Mods/tech/FRENCHPACK 491 CORE/entry.lua
2024-03-21 03:18:27.084 ALERT   Scripting (Main): loadfile: [string "C:\Users\james\Saved Games\DCS\Mods/tech/FRENCHPACK 491 CORE/Fr..."]:161: unexpected symbol near ','

2024-03-21 03:18:27.081 INFO    Scripting (Main): OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in C:\Users\james\Saved Games\DCS\Mods/tech/FRENCHPACK 491 CORE/entry.lua
2024-03-21 03:18:27.084 ALERT   Scripting (Main): loadfile: [string "C:\Users\james\Saved Games\DCS\Mods/tech/FRENCHPACK 491 CORE/Fr..."]:161: unexpected symbol near ','

StainsOP•3/21/24, 1:08 PM

Thanks for checking! For this particular log I did have mods installed, but I've had a similar looking crash with mods and with none. I've done dozens of slow repairs and have been deleting fxo/metashaders and the dcs temp file daily. Haven't tried the save games folder thing so I'll give that a shot next.

French pack is just a bunch of French ground vehicles. It looks like it does have an additional install step that I didn't do so I'll try that, too. Thanks!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://forum.dcs.world/topic/257437-frenchpack-v491-update-on-27042022/&ved=2ahUKEwjAjrCQtYWFAxXwEUQIHfPfDbsQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Elc8JGSpVyQbpKUnZe4d0

VPforceBot•3/21/24, 1:36 PM

:package:

RHINO #0454 Has Shipped!

SStains Thanks for checking! For this particular log I did have mods installed, but I've...

Chuff•3/21/24, 5:26 PM

someone else already asked, but are you running a quest vr headset? if so, have you tried launching dcs with vr off using the skatezilla launcher? there's a known bug right now if your oculus software updates that causes dcs to crash every time you try to launch in vr using a quest link.

CChuff someone else already asked, but are you running a quest vr headset? if so, have...

StainsOP•3/21/24, 5:30 PM

I've been using Virtual Desktop which doesn't seem to be affected by that bug. This crash is so frustrating because you might be able to fly for hours without a crash but then it happens twice in 10 minutes. I think I have it narrowed down to a RAM issue.

Red Magic•3/21/24, 7:03 PM

Try using OvGME to save your VR graphic profile. Then when you want to fly VR, enable the "mod" and just open DCS per normal. Automatically opens in VR mode

Red Magic•3/21/24, 7:04 PM

No need for any virtual desktop, skatezilla oculus launcher or whatnot

RRed Magic Try using OvGME to save your VR graphic profile. Then when you want to fly VR, ...

Chuff•3/21/24, 7:19 PM

Virtual Desktop is the best (maybe only) workaround for a current oculus link issue. Without it quest headsets are broken until the next DCS update if their link software and headset firmware were allowed to update

Caprice•3/21/24, 7:57 PM

Hey not sure why it's always so hard for me to find this link. Could someone send me the most recent TELEM FFB download link? The experimental new one please.

Number481•3/21/24, 8:03 PM

It's pinned in the TelemFFB knowledge base channel
https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508

Number481•3/21/24, 8:04 PM

https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/TelemFFB/?C=M;O=D

Str][ker•3/21/24, 10:14 PM

Question for those who fly DCS helicopters with the Rhino. I have been flying around in the Blackhawk and was trying to figure out how to get the stick to remain in the trimmed position. I depress Force Trim while flying and the helicopter maintains train but the stick recenters. I am sure that I am missing something but can't seem to locate it. Is there a setting in the special settings for the Blackhawk and what about the FFB software for the Rhino? Thanks in advance!

SStr][ker Question for those who fly DCS helicopters with the Rhino. I have been flying ar...

Poor Yurik•3/21/24, 10:29 PM

Run TelemFFB. Link is right above your message.

Vette•3/21/24, 10:32 PM

Since I am not 100% sure about the process. Once I put in my preorder am I supposed to get an order form to fill out right away or not until my number comes up?

SStr][ker Question for those who fly DCS helicopters with the Rhino. I have been flying ar...

Number481•3/21/24, 10:49 PM

I’ve never tried the Blackhawk mod…I’m not sure if it supports FFB or not. (Many community mods don’t) Others may know better. You may have to use the hardware force trim option in the configurator software.

TelemFFB won’t do anything here since the actual axis FFB is native to DCS.

NNumber481 I’ve never tried the Blackhawk mod…I’m not sure if it supports FFB or not. (Man...

Str][ker•3/22/24, 12:53 AM

Thanks! If I use an official module such as the Huey or Apache, this all should work I assume. I do use Telem FFB but as you mentioned, it doesn’t do anything for the trim. I will play around with the configurator software as well.

SStr][ker Thanks! If I use an official module such as the Huey or Apache, this all should ...

Number481•3/22/24, 12:57 AM

yeah, for the official modules, you should only need to configure the trim release binding (in dcs) and then make sure the special settings are correct (should be "default" or "instant" for any module).

Snubblaren•3/22/24, 8:38 AM

Perhaps a hard question but how long time is the waiting time for a new base today?

scriptedpr•3/22/24, 8:41 AM

At least 12 months

SSnubblaren Perhaps a hard question but how long time is the waiting time for a new base tod...

Stryker990•3/22/24, 9:11 AM

If u aint signed up yet do so if ur interested no need to wait in the end u get enough should-i-buy-thinking anyway

SStryker990 If u aint signed up yet do so if ur interested no need to wait in the end u get ...

Snubblaren•3/22/24, 9:12 AM

Snubblaren•3/22/24, 9:12 AM

Already have one a friend wants one

Spelljammer1•3/22/24, 10:08 AM

Has anyone perhaps tried the Rhino with the Force Feedback plugin for Elite Dangerous?

SSnubblaren Click to see attachment

Scarlet•3/22/24, 10:12 AM

Nice counterweight there, mate XD

Less bodged than mine

Red Magic•3/22/24, 11:07 AM

The dining room chair is my favorite part

VPforceBot•3/22/24, 11:28 AM

:package:

RHINO #0456 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•3/22/24, 11:33 AM

:package:

RHINO #0457 Has Shipped!

VVette Since I am not 100% sure about the process. Once I put in my preorder am I suppo...

Asdforce•3/22/24, 11:51 AM

When your number comes up, or thereabouts.

SScarlet Nice counterweight there, mate XD Less bodged than mine

Snubblaren•3/22/24, 12:15 PM

It's easier to grill through plastic than steel, the only downside is that you needed a lot more of volume

jusche89•3/22/24, 12:30 PM

Received my Rhino last week and it is just stunning! Will start fine tuning now. Just one question: which part of the aircraft.cfg do i have to call TelemFFB profiles, to be correctly recognized?

DDr. No So im working on getting this EDForceFeedback to work from this elite dangerous...

Spelljammer1•3/22/24, 12:56 PM

a bit of a necro but thanks so much for sharing, I was just looking for this! my Rhino is on the way, trying to get all the configs prepared

Red Magic•3/22/24, 2:02 PM

When setting up trim binds for the Apache, are you supposed to dual bind your force trim button between Telem and DCS, so they use the same button

Asdforce•3/22/24, 2:06 PM

Shouldn't need to. Dcs apache does force trim + ffb natively. Rhino's own force trim function is for sims/modules that don't do it correctly.

Jjusche89 Received my Rhino last week and it is just stunning! Will start fine tuning now....

Number481•3/22/24, 2:11 PM

I'll assume you mean for MSFS since thats the only one I know that has aircraft.cfg.

TelemFFB gets the name from simconnect, which I believe uses the "Title" that is in the aircraft.cfg file. Make sure you're using the WIP version of TelemFFB (pinned in #VPforce-TelemFFB). If you load an aircraft that does not have a profile, you will see a big purple button you can click to create a new profile: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.z3ihipnpx839

RRed Magic When setting up trim binds for the Apache, are you supposed to dual bind your fo...

Number481•3/22/24, 2:13 PM

There's no trim button setting in TelemFFB for DCS since that is handled natively by the sim. As Adsforce pointed out, the hardware trim in configurator is meant for use with sims that don't have such functionality and/or aren't handled by TelemFFB

NNumber481 I'll assume you mean for MSFS since thats the only one I know that has aircraft....

jusche89•3/22/24, 2:57 PM

Thanks a lot! Haven't been using the WIP version before - makes things much more comfortable to adjust! Is there any way to find specific values for the Trim Gain Physical setting for individual aircraft types?

NNumber481 I would say not. Simply because there are so many other errors in that file. T...

StainsOP•3/22/24, 3:09 PM

Ran memtest86 and it was indeed a RAM issue. Thanks for looking at that log!

SSpelljammer1 Has anyone perhaps tried the Rhino with the Force Feedback plugin for Elite Dang...

Dr. No•3/22/24, 3:49 PM

Yes and it works!
You just have to manually setup the effects with his code. I wanted to add something to merge this to the telemffb but im not a dev for Elite Dangerous.

SStains Ran memtest86 and it was indeed a RAM issue. Thanks for looking at that log!

Number481•3/22/24, 3:55 PM

good find! was it failing hardware or a bad memory OC?

StainsOP•3/22/24, 3:59 PM

No OC applied for this test, so I'm thinking failing hardware. I suppose I need to narrow it down to a known good stick and test every slot to make sure I don't have a motherboard problem.

DDr. No Yes and it works! You just have to manually setup the effects with his code. I w...

Spelljammer1•3/22/24, 4:34 PM

So neat! And thanks for your posts here about it. Do you happen to still have your file where you have set up effects?

Red Magic•3/22/24, 5:12 PM

FFBeast just popped onto my radar. Thoughts?

Red Magic•3/22/24, 5:13 PM

Looking at the spec list, the main things that stuck out to me was a higher peak torque, by quite a bit. But more expensive as well, starting at 900 EU

Fr4Ged•3/22/24, 5:46 PM

Rhino already feels like wrestling. no need for more.

Volk•3/22/24, 5:50 PM

"Forcefeed Beast"? that sounds like a farm thing

2024-03-21 03:18:27.081 INFO Scripting (Main): OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in C:\Users\james\Saved Games\DCS\Mods/tech/FRENCHPACK 491 CORE/entry.lua 2024-03-21 03:18:27.084 ALERT Scripting (Main): loadfile: [string "C:\Users\james\Saved Games\DCS\Mods/tech/FRENCHPACK 491 CORE/Fr..."]:161: unexpected symbol near ','

I'm at my wit's end with DCS crashing on me. Does this log file look like TelemFFB might be an issue

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