NIt does produce a different feeling type of dampening from the normal "Dampen" effect type.
@legobirds , this effect actually uses spring force to generate the dampening effect. So if you have your spring set relatively low, you won't get a lot of dampening effect out of it.
@legobirds , this effect actually uses spring force to generate the dampening effect. So if you have your spring set relatively low, you won't get a lot of dampening effect out of it.
LThanks - unfortunately it's something else. I tightened them a bit but I don't know what the right moment even is. Also mine made this noise anew.
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CTrying open VPforce_FFB_Configurator. What is that?
DCan someone please post the TM angle grip adapter file?
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TIs that a WW with a thrustmaster base nut connection?
NYup winwing with the wingwing adapter
Lcan anyone tell me what causes this behavior? this time it vibrated my extension loose.
WProbably unstable feedback loop. Could you share your settings? Effects/settings tabs
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LI currently have it mounted via an extended desk clamp and it can wobble a bit, trying to figure out a more stable mounting solution right now
Wtry these values
Lthank you, will give it a shot
LButton remapping question. I got a shorter grip and extension today with fewer buttons. I want to map helicopter trim, release and override buttons (on the Effects page) to match the button numbers in my other grip. But it seems that the Effects page disregards the mapping and assigns the physical button instead. Am I missing something?
LFor example: I mapped button 7 -> 1. But when I hit the button, "7" still shows on Effects tab above
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I'm happy - and surprised - to report that the thump I heard and felt no longer occurs with my new shorter grip & extension even if I turn spring force to 100%. So it seems Rhino was not to blame.TWhen using force trim in DCS, the further from center I am, the further it sets the center away from actual stick position. Then the stick jumps to the "center" In the screenshot, you can see where the stick is vs where it sets the center. It does this on game ffb or the sofware force trim overide mode.
Tsolved it. If you have any kind of curve or saturation set in DCS, when you hit trim it does this. Reset DCS axis tune to default and it stops.
SI've got a Thrustmaster grip on the rhino, as a "generic grip". The hat is not recognized by windows, but is represented as a button press. How can I map this as a "hat"?
LIs it normal for there to be quite a bit of play in the stick even with max spring force? I'm trying to have the stick be as stiff as possible unless trim release is pressed for flying helicopters.
HIf there is any play in my stick, it’s not noticeable. Not sure if the play you’re talking about is mechanical or some sort of digital play due to software or a module’s FFB implementation, but I fly the F-14 with max spring forces and I can make tiny instant corrections by barely moving my fingertips.
LYeah, you wouldn't be able to do that if there wasn't any play in the stick. I want the stick to be as immovable as possible unless trim release is pressed which is how helicopters with force trim systems work. I am just curious if being able override the spring force with not much effort even at max strength is normal or not.
FHi @walmis my VPforce Order #889 arrived but without the throw limiters to restrict the stick deflection. Were they supposed to be included or ordered separately?
FHi @walmis Looks like the throw limiters are separate items. If ordered do they come as a single angle or do they come as a set with various angles to choose from?
WYep, limiters are ordered as separate items and you can specify what angles you'd like. You can always order them later or print them yourself - CAD files are available in #
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knowledge-baseTIt should also be noted you can set the limits in the software too.
I forget who asked that yesterday
I forget who asked that yesterday
TAs a temp fix or whatever for now
HI tried to setup the edge and the extra300 mods in dcs. While not having any problems with other aircraft and dcs helis the joystick does not recenter on both planes. There seems to be no spring force. Any ideas?
TAhhh the Air racers! I love it but sadly no I can’t help ya brother I’m just a low man on the pole I mostly just relay things I read or point folks at links
TYou get it figured out let me know I love the Grinnelli air racers!
H@Touch_Of_Legend if I get figured it out I will will post it here. I get all telemffb effects- even the g-effects which can mimic the the spring force but it is not the same.
NThose mods don't support FFB so you'll have to set up a configurator profile with 'sticky spring' enabled to get the spring to activate.
To my knowledge, there aren't any mods that do. I believe the FFB is part of the SDK which you don't get access to unless you are a contracted developer, or, no mod developer has ever taken the trouble to do it.
To my knowledge, there aren't any mods that do. I believe the FFB is part of the SDK which you don't get access to unless you are a contracted developer, or, no mod developer has ever taken the trouble to do it.
HThank you, than I will try that. In the new OH-6A mod it works, but probably you or some else has set up the default profile with sticky spring. Have a nice weekend!
TMan I told you before I’m just gonna read all your replies one of these days….
To much stuff I missed for sure
To much stuff I missed for sure
TYeah man if you make a profile that works please share it.
I’m probably in the minority here because both irl and in games I never wanted to fly a helicopter.
Just yeah was never my thing but the air racers..
Let’s do this
I’m probably in the minority here because both irl and in games I never wanted to fly a helicopter.
Just yeah was never my thing but the air racers..
Let’s do this
H@Touch_Of_Legend spring works now with the sticky spring, but rudder jumps around like crazy in both planes. It does work in all other planes... So I gave up for now.
NDo you have FFB pedals set up? What do you mean the rudder jumps around?
HHYes ffb rudder. This happen if I give right rudder from neutral and release it after that.
NTurn off the pedal trimming feature in TelemFFB if it’s enabled. I don’t know how or if that will work with mods like that.
Sproblem solved: looks like i accidentally set telemFFB to simulate it as a helicopter :MurmKek:
N@harry yeah.. turn off the trim option for the pedals. These mods don't accept input via the export script commands the same way the official modules do.
From the base "PropellerAircraft" profile, I would recommend modifying the G-force effect on the joystick and the pedal spring settings per the screenshots
From the base "PropellerAircraft" profile, I would recommend modifying the G-force effect on the joystick and the pedal spring settings per the screenshots
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Works good now. Thank you very much?!H
HUnfortunately the flight model is not ready yet. They made the last update in 2021, so I have no hope, that it will be finished soon. I would love to train aerobatics with it....
IRe installed IL2 and tried the Rhino, works good and I like the effects, but joystick feels slow like when there is no Telem in DCS, not very natural and slow to react which makes it difficult to be precise, it does get stiff at speed but when I slow down I can feel a sudden change in the stick were the resistance becomes weaker suddenly, no progressively like DSC, any ideas how to make it work better?
NProper simulation of the flight dynamics during aerobatic maneuvers is likely to be extremely difficult and AFAIK, nobody does it very good. MSFS is laughable.
I wonder if anyone else remembers Flight Unilimited from the mid-90s. It was a dedicated aerobatics simulator with an Extra300, Sukhoi, Decathlon, Pitts and a Grob sailplane I believe. As I remember it, the flight model relating to characteristics during and after stall was superior to any sim I've flown since then. Keeping in mind that was 20+ years ago and memory has a way of becoming whatever it wants over time
I wonder if anyone else remembers Flight Unilimited from the mid-90s. It was a dedicated aerobatics simulator with an Extra300, Sukhoi, Decathlon, Pitts and a Grob sailplane I believe. As I remember it, the flight model relating to characteristics during and after stall was superior to any sim I've flown since then. Keeping in mind that was 20+ years ago and memory has a way of becoming whatever it wants over time