Got the text file open looks like it loops an error when TelemFFB is running and the device is disco

Got the text file open looks like it loops an error when TelemFFB is running and the device is disconnected, over 600,000,000 lines of code as it pushes a log every millisecond:

hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.508 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.509 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.510 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall

hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.508 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.509 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.510 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall

hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.508 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.509 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.510 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall

hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.508 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.509 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-29 15:29:46.510 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
  File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
  File "hid.py", line 163, in read
  File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall

LLastRonin Got the text file open looks like it loops an error when TelemFFB is running and...

walmis•6/1/24, 5:21 PM

The latest version should handle device disconnection properly and attempt to reconnect. The log size is quite amazing though

SamNFTY•6/1/24, 5:22 PM

PiNKSH!T•6/1/24, 5:48 PM

looks like you have the making of a zip bomb there

thedicecooler•6/2/24, 3:09 AM

With damper enabled, I keep getting oscillations and shutdown. I've been messing with LPF tuning etc. and have reduced it where I dont get the shutdown for just touching the stick. However, I still get slight vibration/oscillation but only in the x-axis, yaxis is smooth. Any suggestions? Trying to fly DCS Apache. When I get the ETL vibration effect from TelemFFB, it goes bananas and vibrates strongly until I shut it off and back on.

kaltokri•6/2/24, 3:56 PM

My Motor Y stays offline. I have removed PSU and USB, but it stays offline.
In the last 3 days the motors went offline 3 times when I was playing DCS.
But ever time they come back online after moving a axis to full aft/forward.
Any ideas?

Tthedicecooler With damper enabled, I keep getting oscillations and shutdown. I've been messin...

walmis•6/2/24, 4:17 PM

Try damper filter at 4Hz, but yeah it shouldn't be this sensitive at those settings. Check the belt tension on the X axis too.

Kkaltokri My Motor Y stays offline. I have removed PSU and USB, but it stays offline. In t...

walmis•6/2/24, 4:18 PM

My bet would be to check the wiring, see if wiggling the data wires near the plugs give some connected/disconnected beeps. Also check if the motor LED blinks steadily when powered.

Wwalmis My bet would be to check the wiring, see if wiggling the data wires near the plu...

thedicecooler•6/2/24, 6:34 PM

This is where I ended up through randomness. I would like to know how the dynamics interact between Spring force and damper with respect to LPF and the sliders. My objective was a spring centering, damped feel that reflects the slowness observed by the reaction of controls in DCS apache vs. the actual stick. If I deflect the stick and let it go, it lightly bounces like a spring on it's way back to center, but I have the damped feel/look I wanted.

Wwalmis Usually when a problem is gimbal related it makes the creaks on a single axis.. ...

Reed•6/2/24, 10:42 PM

Mine creaks in both x and y, but i havent had any issues and everything is tight.

Touch_Of_Legend•6/3/24, 10:37 AM

I think someone lifted up the leather boot and tightened the bolts at the TOP of the metal tube connector?

It was long ago but someone fixed this creak by doing that and I think the culprit was the square metal tube and those screws.

Maybe a search and you can find the pic of what screws he tightened

RReed Mine creaks in both x and y, but i havent had any issues and everything is tight...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/3/24, 10:37 AM

See above sorry I forgot to tag ya

PPiNKSH!T Also getting a creaking sound in my gimbal recently

Touch_Of_Legend•6/3/24, 10:38 AM

See above above and good luck!

WhereNoLarkFlew•6/4/24, 1:57 AM

Has anyone noticed the force in one of the axis for the motor going bad? I think my Y-axis motor may be going bad

WhereNoLarkFlew•6/4/24, 1:58 AM

The level of force is much less than X axis, all settings have each axis at 100%

WhereNoLarkFlew•6/4/24, 2:12 AM

Also, is there a way to reduce pot_2 to 0%? I don’t have it bound to anything, but it’s been sitting at 1.2% and changes to 0.7% if I scroll the potentiometer to 0.0% for pot_1.

WhereNoLarkFlew•6/4/24, 2:52 AM

If I hold it in full deflection at full spring strength the fans kick on in 10 seconds, climbs to 60 deg C, X axis motor is fine.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Has anyone noticed the force in one of the axis for the motor going bad? I think...

walmis•6/4/24, 3:54 AM

My guess is that the motor was preheated from earlier and does a bit of thermal throttling, it shouldn't be going 'bad' - it either works or doesn't

In the off chance - it could be a thermal paste issue between the motor and transistors on the driver pcb that impedes heat dissipation into the motor, that causes it to register higher temperatures.

When pot_2 is unconnected it floats a bit due to high electrical impedance, but if it's disabled in software it doesn't do anything regardless

Wwalmis My guess is that the motor was preheated from earlier and does a bit of thermal ...

WhereNoLarkFlew•6/4/24, 11:40 AM

Okay, thanks Walmis. I don’t know how it could have been preheated, but I’ll keep an eye on it.

AndyHill•6/4/24, 1:08 PM

what were you flying btw?

AndyHill•6/4/24, 1:34 PM

and were the fans running?

Monk•6/4/24, 4:53 PM

I'm about to confirm my order at last (YAY!) - but now I'm wondering: what is "13. Machined Aluminum Grip Mount Upgrade for Rhino, Anodized, Black" used for - do I need this?

MMonk I'm about to confirm my order at last (YAY!) - but now I'm wondering: what is "1...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 5:20 PM

First congrats! I’m really excited to see another baby Rhino in the wild.

For questions like that to get a quicker response I would go ahead and tag @walmis

MMonk I'm about to confirm my order at last (YAY!) - but now I'm wondering: what is "1...

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 5:27 PM

The normal mount is simply 2d printed, and if you have an accident and get a grip or extension even a slightly bit crooked on, you will quickly shear off the thread as you basically just attacked it with a dull burr tool.

MMonk I'm about to confirm my order at last (YAY!) - but now I'm wondering: what is "1...

TheAmazinGreat•6/4/24, 5:27 PM

It’s an upgrade to the grip attachment threads from 3D printed to Aluminum.

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 5:29 PM

I managed to do just that, do have an aluminium piece now, but i also managed to 3d print a replacement two days before it arrived so haven't actually fitted it yet.

I honestly think it would be a decent upgrade for the most often worn/broken part on the whole rhino.

AndyHill•6/4/24, 5:40 PM

depends a lot on how often you intend to switch grips

Monk•6/4/24, 5:43 PM

Ah Ok, thx everybody. I have two grips at the moment, probably more to come… a sturdy thread seems to be a good idea

Andre•6/5/24, 9:15 AM

I've got a problem with my Collective. Everything worked fine until next week, suddenly i get a FAULT_ENCODER_MAGNET Error as soon as i power up the Collective. When i set Master Gain to 0% and restart, everything is fine. As soon as i increase the Gain to around 30-50 % the Motor times out again with the same error. I'm using the swap function to get an X mtoro to run as an Y. But, the Collective has been working like that for at least 2 months now without any problems. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

walmis•6/5/24, 9:21 AM

Your damper force LPF is 0Hz for some reason, set it to 6Hz and it should be fine

Andre•6/5/24, 9:25 AM

That was quick! And it worked!

Thank you! No idea what changed it to 0 though.

Wwalmis Your damper force LPF is 0Hz for some reason, set it to 6Hz and it should be fin...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/5/24, 10:04 AM

Just for myself the standard setting for Rhino is 4Hz?

But yeah never 0 right? I need to re watch your set up video again

PiNKSH!T•6/5/24, 12:33 PM

Hey guys if I've got a Virpil Warbrd grip & getting all FFFFF in the grip debug does that mean I might not have the grip plugged in properly?

PiNKSH!T•6/5/24, 12:33 PM

also I have no virpil base just the Rhino

PiNKSH!T•6/5/24, 1:42 PM

got that working, need to really seat the plug in on the virpil

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:39 PM

noticed this option doesn't work in latest update

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:40 PM

I had to download the configurator separately to run it

Dddrake1984 noticed this option doesn't work in latest update

Number481•6/5/24, 11:49 PM

seems to work fine? The configurator isn't bundled with TelemFFB or anything. It needs to be installed on your system and you need to have run it at least once (so that it sets its own path in the registry which is how TelemFFB finds it).

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:49 PM

it always ran before, latest update changed broke something with it

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:50 PM

I just ran the configurator again, and then just tried to run it from telemFFB and still nothing.

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:51 PM

ok, found the problem

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:52 PM

if my joystick is plugged in and turned on, then it will run but if my pedals are plugged in and my joystick is not, it will not

ddrake1984•6/5/24, 11:52 PM

essentially seems to only work for joystick and not pedals

Dddrake1984 if my joystick is plugged in and turned on, then it **will **run but if my pedal...

Number481•6/5/24, 11:58 PM

that's because it tries to send the PID/SN of the device when opening configurator (even though it doesn't work which reminds me I need to make a FR to walmis to allow passing the device details via args to configurator). Since you are trying from the master instance, and there is no device, it is (silently) throwing an exception because there is no SN. If you showed the child instance window (pedals) and opened it from there, it would work.

No point in having the device information passed unless/until its supported by configurator so I'll fix that.

Koozie•6/6/24, 3:18 AM

Where does one get a 1 foot extention 5 pin cable male to female lol

NNumber481 that's because it tries to send the PID/SN of the device when opening configurat...

walmis•6/6/24, 3:56 AM

I have this fixed internally for the next version, will roll out with next update

KKoozie Where does one get a 1 foot extention 5 pin cable male to female lol

Touch_Of_Legend•6/6/24, 8:08 AM

Not gonna lie but most of them come with extension purchases.

I’d be interested to see a link as well as for different sizes since here a lot of folks 3d print stuff (including extensions).

So great question!

PiNKSH!T•6/6/24, 8:32 AM

Hey guys what grip should I select in vpforce config app when using the VKB adapter? is it disable?

plehmann•6/6/24, 9:44 AM

hmmm been haviong this issue more recently- noticed directly with phantom whereby the stick is offset centre forwards...

plehmann•6/6/24, 9:44 AM

but now - given that I've reset the config, the circle ( virtual centre is up at the top ????!?!?

Got the text file open looks like it loops an error when TelemFFB is running and the device is disco

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