Hthis an alternative https://www.printables.com/de/model/841190-vpforce-rhino-diy-force-feedback-ffb-flight-stick
Printables.com
A DIY design for the VPforce Force Feedback Control System similar to the famous Rhino Flightstick | Kostenlose 3D-druckbare STL-Modelle herunterladen
HI haven’t personally tried it though
PThanks mate, sorry but I cannot find parts list 
HThe creator is here in the discord @mrusk
PYes I will look into it and choose 
HGitHub
3D print files, parts list and instructions to build a DIY version of the Rhino FFB Stick base using the VPForce motor kit - protomaker964/Rhino-FFB-Clone-3D_Printed
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Rpics of a completed kit cam out as early as December. Word was waiting on motors to be available in April or May. And since then it seems like mostly radio silence
HApologies if this has already been asked. But is there any intention to produce a VPforce yoke.. Unfortunately I lack the time and skills to build something like that myself. Obviously there is the cls yoke, however I very much enjoy VPforce and telem FFB so ideally would like to keep everything VPforce!
MParts list is in the description on printables.
PThanks a lot!
PIs this using the monster tech plate or a stock vpforce mounting plate?
DThe Monstertech plate
DOption when ordering (center mounting)
Aso i may have figured out a way to stop that little Microsoft Edge USB popup from showing up every time you connect the rhino, it's very much a fix that
you do at your own risk
SWhen are you going to actually review the Rhino?
Ckinda stupid question, but for those who add/remove the rhino from their rig... how do you pick it up? is it safe to lift it by the stick?
AI don't really know, but personally I would avoid it, the gimbal isn't naturally supposed to take much load in that direction and the Rhino is heavy
POh wow VPForce has the MT plate available when ordering? I figured I'd have to do a separate MT order.
Dyou can buy the same pattern on the VPforce website OR the plate on MT. Like you want^^
BReceived my Rhino a couple of days ago. I'm blown away! Game changer!
WSo, what’s the latest news on the Rhino with more powerful motors? Is there any news or is it just: it’ll happen at some point?
HDon’t pull from Stick… too much force for Gimbal. Just pick up from the walls
AI have just learned about VPforce feedback controls today. Is it possible to use the VP base with MSFS in the Fenix Airbus with a replica airbus sidestick?
DI'll let Walmis and the others give you a precise answer, but the VPforce base + a suitable (compatible) stick works perfectly with MSFS and Fenix (I use a Virpil stick, for example).
AI think the question is which replica sidestick are we talking about?
AThe sidestick made by FlightSimProjects and I use it with the Thrustmaster magnetic base. So it already has the Thrustmaster adaptor on it. I believe I can request the VPforce base to be delivered with the Thrustmaster adaptor, though I am not 100% sure.
ARhino is out of the box compatible with TM
AI have never seen any video online of people using a force feedback (FFB) system with MSFS. Are you able to explain what it feels with / without FFB? I learnt to fly 20 years ago in Cessna 152 & 172's. When I use my Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo for setting trim, it is horrible, feels nothing like the real thing. As soon as I take off IRL I would hold the yoke and trim to climb, you get zero feedback with the Alpha & Bravo in MSFS. I stopped flying the Cessna's in MSFS because of the lack of feeling through the controls. They are still great controls, but the zero feedback is no fun for me at least. I have jumped into airliners and never looked back, I love the Fenix & FBW.
Anot a guarantee of compatibility with your stick though, but I suppose it's promising
AThat's good to know. Thank you. I'm not too worried about the sidestick itself, the airbus is pretty basic with regards to button / trigger functions. As long as it can be connected to the VPforce base which you have confirmed it will, so it's all good!
BIf it works worth a warthog base with an adaptor, no reason to think that adapter wouldn't work on the rhino.
DYes, I know what you mean. I'll explain how I feel. In very short and mega simplified 
: The base produces vibrations that simulate real effects (vibration of engines, wheels on the ground, etc...) so when you play, the VPForce software reproduces the effects coming from the game. Basic example. You land an airplane, and well, the wheels will produce a force in the game that will be transmitted to your joystick. Basically, the landing sensation will be 100× more realistic than without FFB. As soon as you play 1x with FFB, you'll immediately understand these brief explanations. A helicopter VRS or a stall, well, you'll feel it. If you've ever flown a plane or a car (....), you'll get the feel of it!
In fact, I've stopped playing with my Honeycomb Alpha because 0 sensations and you feel more like shaking a stick than controlling a plane. Sorry for these light explanations, but we're really talking about improving in-game sensations.
For example, my base transmits the start-up of my H145 and my whole frame vibrates (slightly). So you add a VR headset and you almost feel like you're in the aircraft. I wouldn't go back for anything! It's just incredible!
: The base produces vibrations that simulate real effects (vibration of engines, wheels on the ground, etc...) so when you play, the VPForce software reproduces the effects coming from the game. Basic example. You land an airplane, and well, the wheels will produce a force in the game that will be transmitted to your joystick. Basically, the landing sensation will be 100× more realistic than without FFB. As soon as you play 1x with FFB, you'll immediately understand these brief explanations. A helicopter VRS or a stall, well, you'll feel it. If you've ever flown a plane or a car (....), you'll get the feel of it! In fact, I've stopped playing with my Honeycomb Alpha because 0 sensations and you feel more like shaking a stick than controlling a plane. Sorry for these light explanations, but we're really talking about improving in-game sensations.
For example, my base transmits the start-up of my H145 and my whole frame vibrates (slightly). So you add a VR headset and you almost feel like you're in the aircraft. I wouldn't go back for anything! It's just incredible!
RThe Kiowa has 8.8” total travel and the resistance is 1+-0.5 lbs. I’m going to print a 10 degree limiter to cut down my total travel. How do I ensure I’m marching the resistance? Is there a math formulae based on all the effects in the setting tab for example spring ?
SIf you've ever flown a plane or a carInquiring minds want to know....
FIf you are missing the trimming experience of a yoke I recommend taking a look at flitesim dot com and the youtube review of simhangar.
Aif you're measuring resistance in lb instead of Nm, it depends on the length of your stick
Aeasiest way to determine that would be to just measure what you get
AI saw the Flite Sim presentation at the recent expo and I also watched the youtube video you are referring to. Very exciting times for flight simming. I have just started to build an A320 home cockpit. Pedastal is 99% completed. Going to work on the Capt sidestick pedastal next and then the Captains chair. I am taking a break from flying the Cessna's and I am loving the learning curve / process of the Airbus family. I am torn between building a full size home cockpit of the A320 or the A380...
DHaven't you seen Back to the Future?
All kidding aside, a little mistranslation.
All kidding aside, a little mistranslation
.SI mean, it's a possibility... I've very briefly been airborne in a car. It certainly wasn't very controlled, so I wouldn't call it flying though
RI know. Only able to use the data I can find from the aircraft manuals and sme who are answering questions
RI think 1lbs is 4.44 newtons
RI just ordered a digital force gauge.
KSorry I’m new lol. Has FFB and Falcon BMS been figured out?
WThere’s a number of Rhino MSFS videos on YouTube. You are aware though that Airbus airliners are fly-by-wire so to be realistic you would set up a FFB stick to not move on its own based on air over the control surfaces like you would most aircraft, which is where FFB really comes into its own.
In this case you would set it up so it would give you vibrations, the correct weight to push it and the feel of damping etc, but it won’t be fighting you based on what’s happening with the aircraft through the air.
To be honest, if you are only going to be using a FFB stick for the Fenix A320 or any other fly-by-wire aircraft like it you will get a lot less benefit from it compared to other aircraft. A normal spring based stick base with clutch dampers would be sufficient, and you can add a transducer and use a piece of software like Sim Shaker to add the vibrations as I currently do. The only thing FFB will give you with that type of aircraft is more control of the stick movement feel and damping.
In this case you would set it up so it would give you vibrations, the correct weight to push it and the feel of damping etc, but it won’t be fighting you based on what’s happening with the aircraft through the air.
To be honest, if you are only going to be using a FFB stick for the Fenix A320 or any other fly-by-wire aircraft like it you will get a lot less benefit from it compared to other aircraft. A normal spring based stick base with clutch dampers would be sufficient, and you can add a transducer and use a piece of software like Sim Shaker to add the vibrations as I currently do. The only thing FFB will give you with that type of aircraft is more control of the stick movement feel and damping.
Ni don't think anything has changed on that front
Si fly msfs 100%, the ffb is great for trimming. you hold the sick back to climb and trim to relieve pressure. also the stick force increases with airflow over the control surfaces. pedals too. this is all in GA craft, i dont do airliners so i dont know how those would feel.
CI've been not paying attention for a bit. Are there any updated recommended settings from Heatblur for Rhino/F4 yet?
AAwesome information. Thank you. I will look out for more videos on youtube. Any videos I have seen to date are people with little experience flying, so they are overwhelmed with the joy of trying something new (just like trying VR for the first time). That wears off quickly and you begin to work out the pro's and con's of the device you are controlling / wearing. What I am truly after is the most realistic feeling of flying the Airbus aircraft. I imagine the magic is in the software. So if the software has not been written yet to mimic the fly by wire feeling, then I'm sure it's only a matter of time before that happens.