it's gonna happen either way and what that means for x11 users is that they are now a legacy support

it's gonna happen either way and what that means for x11 users is that they are now a legacy support userbase and need to not be using the latest and greatest distro

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:30 AM

if you can keep x11 maintained at the same pace as everything else it'd be less of an issue but we're talking about joe biden vs katy perry

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:30 AM

“Some may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” lol

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:30 AM

yup

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:30 AM

i was sad when grandma died too

PPez it's gonna happen either way and what that means for x11 users is that they are ...

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:30 AM

POV: You are an X11 user and just opened an issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TgaCXWsjYM&t=3s

YouTubeMcFrozenNuggets TV

Now Comes The Part Where We Throw Our Heads Back And Laugh! - Georg...

Classic iconic scene.

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:30 AM

It’s not even really better, a bunch of things are broken AF on it

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:31 AM

right. stuff that's being fixed.

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:31 AM

and the things that do work properly are far and away better than anything x provides

BigMigzGaming#9566•7/8/24, 12:31 AM

Sorry to bother you guys again. My step son tried to change Oled to bazzite but his installation is in landscape mode and he can't see anything but half of the screen

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:31 AM

It’s been in development for 15 years, it’s older now than x11 was when they started it

BBigMigzGaming#9566 Sorry to bother you guys again. My step son tried to change Oled to bazzite but ...

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:31 AM

Known issue, we're waiting for a patch to be merged into the linux kernel

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:31 AM

won't be much longer

Mervius•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

basic graphics mode fixes the installed on oled, right?

BBigMigzGaming#9566 Sorry to bother you guys again. My step son tried to change Oled to bazzite but ...

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

You gotta boot it in, what like “basic graphics mode”

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

for now you can get past it by using a dock

MMcromae It’s not even really better, a bunch of things are broken AF on it

halva•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

ah yes i love it when i can't have basic functionality (proper multimonitor support, vrr support that doesn't involve weird hacks, hdr) because there are some broken extreme edge cases

MMcromae It’s been in development for 15 years, it’s older now than x11 was when they sta...

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

the x project is like 30 years old

PPez the x project is like 30 years old

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

1980s

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

40, thanks kyle

PPez the x project is like 30 years old

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

And I am like 40

BigMigzGaming#9566•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

Ok thanks

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

I should be retired too eh?

PPez 40, thanks kyle

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

🎮bazzite

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

New doesn’t mean better

MMcromae It’s been in development for 15 years, it’s older now than x11 was when they sta...

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:32 AM

i mean maybe if u don't see the issue with this statement

halva•7/8/24, 12:33 AM

unlike humans, software projects don't usually live up to more than half a century

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:33 AM

If it did Windows 11 would smack

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:33 AM

it's not older than x11 was when they started it

MMcromae If it did Windows 11 would smack

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:33 AM

windows 11 does smack when you don't expect it to run on ten year old hardware

MMcromae New doesn’t mean better

halva•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

X11 was literally designed for an entirely different computing architecture, it's just a bad protocol for modern desktop computers

PPez windows 11 does smack when you don't expect it to run on *ten year old hardware*

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

Moores law is dead

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

Also I don’t expect it to run on 10 year old hardware

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

moores law doesn't even make sense against a human timescale

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

I expect it to run on modern hardware

halva•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

like the biggest issue isn't even that it's old, it's old and completely unsuitable

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:34 AM

we've had computers for about 1/1000th of humanity's existence

Hhalva X11 was literally designed for an entirely different computing architecture, it'...

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:35 AM

HTML was literally developed for a different internet

Mcromae•7/8/24, 12:35 AM

It’s just bad code by modern standards

PPez we've had computers for about 1/1000th of humanity's existence

Kyle Gospo•7/8/24, 12:35 AM

and everything is already fucked beyond repair

PezOP•7/8/24, 12:35 AM

there is no feasible way to try and make progress match the breadth of human intelligence and hardware will always be behind because we haven't spent 20,000 years building it

halva•7/8/24, 12:35 AM

i don't have a separate terminal sitting on my desk while the actual computer is in another room