Pit's not older than x11 was when they started it
Pwindows 11 does smack when you don't expect it to run on ten year old hardware
HX11 was literally designed for an entirely different computing architecture, it's just a bad protocol for modern desktop computers
MMoores law is dead
MAlso I don’t expect it to run on 10 year old hardware
Pmoores law doesn't even make sense against a human timescale
MI expect it to run on modern hardware
Hlike the biggest issue isn't even that it's old, it's old and completely unsuitable
Pwe've had computers for about 1/1000th of humanity's existence
MHTML was literally developed for a different internet
MIt’s just bad code by modern standards
Kand everything is already fucked beyond repair
Pthere is no feasible way to try and make progress match the breadth of human intelligence and hardware will always be behind because we haven't spent 20,000 years building it
Hi don't have a separate terminal sitting on my desk while the actual computer is in another room
MOk, leaving the real and entering the philosophical and hypothetical but sure
Hyeah and writing sites like it's the 90s would be a bad practice these days
Hxd
Pmoore's law is philosophical and hypothetical
Pcomputers being outdated in five years is just fact
Mif I open 2 firefox windows it would be so lag in x11
MIt is, you’re the one who mentioned not expecting new software to run on 10 year old hardware
MAlways ran fine on my system
MThat’s moores law
MAnd no it’s not
P"moore's law is dead!"
MYep
MTell me how much faster a smart phone built today really is from one built 5 years ago
P>your decade old hardware mysteriously became shit for no reason
MIn a meaningful way
Mfine =/= laggy
MDoesn’t lag
Mit works but in a very annoying way
Pit's just a psyop and software developers are actually gaslighting you into buying new hardware, i'm sure that's it
Pmoore's law is just a way to try and rationalize this but ultimately doesn't make sense
MAhh yes, be sarcastic and ridicule
MF&#^ edge cases
Kthe official posiiton of the KDE SIG is that any X11 issue is closed + won't fix
Kour position is that we will remove X11 from our package lists by F41, and then close+won't fix
Ptoo much effort tbh
KX11 is dead
KPoor X11.
Pyou should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
Pthey complain about broken x11 instead :hahasuffering:
KI'd rather they layer it and then open an issue so I can close + won't fix it in complete confidence by virtue of the package being there in
rpm-ostree statusI can even screenshot the glitchiest in x11
MAnd yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stuff need it and can’t run Wayland
Kthat is what XWayland is for
Pthey can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
Kwhich is not going away, just as pipewire-pulse isn't going away
KThey'd also likely not be running bazzite to do so
