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Mcromae
Ok, leaving the real and entering the philosophical and hypothetical but sure
Ok
, leaving the real and entering the philosophical and hypothetical but sure
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M
Mcromae
It’s just bad code by modern standards
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:36 AM
yeah and writing sites like it
's the 90s would be a bad practice these days
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:36 AM
xd
M
Mcromae
Ok, leaving the real and entering the philosophical and hypothetical but sure
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
moore
's law is philosophical and hypothetical
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
computers being outdated in five years is just fact
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
if I open 2 firefox windows it would be so lag in x11
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
It is
, you
’re the one who mentioned not expecting new software to run on 10 year old hardware
M
Muko Tabi
if I open 2 firefox windows it would be so lag in x11
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
Always ran fine on my system
P
Pez
computers being outdated in five years is just fact
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
That
’s moores law
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
And no it
’s not
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
"moore
's law is dead
!
"
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
Yep
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
Tell me how much faster a smart phone built today really is from one built 5 years ago
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
>your decade old hardware mysteriously became shit for no reason
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
In a meaningful way
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
fine
=
/
= laggy
M
Muko Tabi
fine =/= laggy
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
Doesn
’t lag
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
it works but in a very annoying way
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
it
's just a psyop and software developers are actually gaslighting you into buying new hardware
, i
'm sure that
's it
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
moore
's law is just a way to try and rationalize this but ultimately doesn
't make sense
P
Pez
it's just a psyop and software developers are actually gaslighting you into buyi...
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
Ahh yes
, be sarcastic and ridicule
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
F
&
#
^ edge cases
M
Mcromae
F&#^ edge cases
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
the official posiiton of the KDE SIG is that any X11 issue is closed
+ won
't fix
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
our position is that we will remove X11 from our package lists by F41
, and then close
+won
't fix
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
too much effort tbh
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
X11 is dead
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
Poor X11
.
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
you should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
they complain about broken x11 instead
:hahasuffering
:
P
Pez
you should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain a...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
I
'd rather they layer it and then open an issue so I can close
+ won
't fix it in complete confidence by virtue of the package being there in
rpm-ostree status
rpm-ostree status
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
I can even screenshot the glitchiest in x11
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
And yet
, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stuff need it and can
’t run Wayland
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
that is what XWayland is for
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
they can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
which is not going away
, just as pipewire
-pulse isn
't going away
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
They
'd also likely not be running
bazzite
to do so
K
Kamquat
Poor X11.
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
X11 has served surprisingly fine for being a stop gap measure for setups that no longer even exist anymore
K
Kyle Gospo
that is what XWayland is for
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
It
’s broken
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
supporting haskell developers isn
't our mission here LMFAO
M
Mcromae
It’s broken
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
"it
's broken
" he says on the distro that plays games entirely in XWayland
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
there are also fully featured nested x11 compositors you can use
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
I will not entertain this
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
i want to
"play elden ring without screen tearing
"
P
Pez
they can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
M
Mcromae
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
No I can
’t
, that
’s right up there with saying
“if you don
’t like it here move
”
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
not support 80s software
H
halva
X11 has served surprisingly fine for being a stop gap measure for setups that no...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
I
've been using X11 since it was Xfree86
. It
's about time it got put out to pasture
. It
's kludges on top of hacks on top of patches at this point
.
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
what does haskell even have to do with windowing protocols what
M
Mcromae
No I can’t, that’s right up there with saying “if you don’t like it here move”
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
yeah and that
's actually the prerogative set
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
you can go use an ancient LTS distro if you need LTS software
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
nobody is stopping you from not getting updates but yourself at that point
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
Or run a VM
. Or Distrobox and VNC to yourself
.
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