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Pez
the x project is like 30 years old
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:32 AM
And I am like 40
B
BigMigzGaming#9566
•
7/8/24, 12:32 AM
Ok thanks
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:32 AM
I should be retired too eh
?
P
Pez
40, thanks kyle
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:32 AM
🎮bazzite
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:32 AM
New doesn
’t mean better
M
Mcromae
It’s been in development for 15 years, it’s older now than x11 was when they sta...
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:32 AM
i mean maybe if u don
't see the issue with this statement
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:33 AM
unlike humans
, software projects don
't usually live up to more than half a century
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:33 AM
If it did Windows 11 would smack
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:33 AM
it
's not older than x11 was when they started it
M
Mcromae
If it did Windows 11 would smack
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:33 AM
windows 11 does smack when you don
't expect it to run on
ten year old hardware
M
Mcromae
New doesn’t mean better
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
X11 was literally designed for an entirely different computing architecture
, it
's just a bad protocol for modern desktop computers
P
Pez
windows 11 does smack when you don't expect it to run on *ten year old hardware*
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
Moores law is dead
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
Also I don
’t expect it to run on 10 year old hardware
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
moores law doesn
't even make sense against a human timescale
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
I expect it to run on modern hardware
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
like the biggest issue isn
't even that it
's old
, it
's old
and
completely unsuitable
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:34 AM
we
've had computers for about 1
/1000th of humanity
's existence
H
halva
X11 was literally designed for an entirely different computing architecture, it'...
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:35 AM
HTML was literally developed for a different internet
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:35 AM
It
’s just bad code by modern standards
P
Pez
we've had computers for about 1/1000th of humanity's existence
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:35 AM
and everything is already fucked beyond repair
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:35 AM
there is no feasible way to try and make progress match the breadth of human intelligence and hardware will always be behind because we haven
't spent 20
,000 years building it
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:35 AM
i don
't have a separate terminal sitting on my desk while the actual computer is in another room
P
Pez
there is no feasible way to try and make progress match the breadth of human int...
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:36 AM
Ok
, leaving the real and entering the philosophical and hypothetical but sure
M
Mcromae
It’s just bad code by modern standards
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:36 AM
yeah and writing sites like it
's the 90s would be a bad practice these days
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:36 AM
xd
M
Mcromae
Ok, leaving the real and entering the philosophical and hypothetical but sure
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
moore
's law is philosophical and hypothetical
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
computers being outdated in five years is just fact
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
if I open 2 firefox windows it would be so lag in x11
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
It is
, you
’re the one who mentioned not expecting new software to run on 10 year old hardware
M
Muko Tabi
if I open 2 firefox windows it would be so lag in x11
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
Always ran fine on my system
P
Pez
computers being outdated in five years is just fact
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
That
’s moores law
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:37 AM
And no it
’s not
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
"moore
's law is dead
!
"
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
Yep
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
Tell me how much faster a smart phone built today really is from one built 5 years ago
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
>your decade old hardware mysteriously became shit for no reason
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
In a meaningful way
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
fine
=
/
= laggy
M
Muko Tabi
fine =/= laggy
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
Doesn
’t lag
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
it works but in a very annoying way
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:38 AM
it
's just a psyop and software developers are actually gaslighting you into buying new hardware
, i
'm sure that
's it
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
moore
's law is just a way to try and rationalize this but ultimately doesn
't make sense
P
Pez
it's just a psyop and software developers are actually gaslighting you into buyi...
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
Ahh yes
, be sarcastic and ridicule
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
F
&
#
^ edge cases
M
Mcromae
F&#^ edge cases
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:39 AM
the official posiiton of the KDE SIG is that any X11 issue is closed
+ won
't fix
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
our position is that we will remove X11 from our package lists by F41
, and then close
+won
't fix
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
too much effort tbh
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
X11 is dead
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
Poor X11
.
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
you should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
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