Without getting political (although I swear there used to be a channel that was "lawless" here..), w

Without getting political (although I swear there used to be a channel that was "lawless" here..), what in the absolute nightmare is going on in the US? Everything seems to be one massive shitfest

Lyris the Kitori•7/14/24, 1:36 AM

im laying in bed

AquaOP•7/14/24, 1:37 AM

Lol

AAqua Without getting political (although I swear there used to be a channel that was ...

Perksey•7/14/24, 1:38 AM

I think whatever happens we should be concerned for what's happening now and what will happen in the election

Perksey•7/14/24, 1:38 AM

I don't see a possible positive way through this

AquaOP•7/14/24, 1:39 AM

Yeah from an outside perspective it seems every possible outcome is bad

Perksey•7/14/24, 1:39 AM

i'll add you back to the lawless channel, you surrendered it when you left

AquaOP•7/14/24, 1:39 AM

Ahh I wondered if that still existed

juicyjuice•7/14/24, 1:42 AM

Hi folks! Newbie to Silk here. I see this channel is active right now! Apologies for posting here when people are likely going off to bed soon.

I’m on a very tight deadline for monday and I’m stumped on a pretty big issue. I posted the question on the help and questions channel. If a generous soul would mind just having a look at the question, I would be infinitely grateful.

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 2:15 AM

Hey all, would anyone have tips on doing embedding of files (like textures) that would work both on desktop and android builds?

Nitrous•7/14/24, 4:01 AM

who needs a window when you can just use an image

IiDrmzIt Hey all, would anyone have tips on doing embedding of files (like textures) that...

Perksey•7/14/24, 4:29 AM

this is a great question. silk doesn't provide anything built-in today, so every dev will do their own thing. you could use embedded resources if you only have a few small assets, but otherwise you'll probably want to use AndroidAssetAndroidAsset:

<ItemGroup>
    <AndroidAsset Include="Assets\sound.mp3" />
</ItemGroup>

<ItemGroup>
    <AndroidAsset Include="Assets\sound.mp3" />
</ItemGroup>

these can be accessed using AssetManager

Perksey•7/14/24, 4:29 AM

you'll need to roll your own abstraction to pass to your xplat code, but that shouldn't be too difficult

PPerksey this is a great question. silk doesn't provide anything built-in today, so every...

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 4:33 AM

Hey man thanks for the reply, duplicating my content include Assets/**/*.*Assets/**/*.* to AndroidAsset seems to make it be detected by the AssetManager. I think that does it for now, though if I could have that Assets folder exist in a shared assembly (i.e., one the Desktop entry point and the Android entry point can reference), that'd be nice. Would you happen to know about that too?

Perksey•7/14/24, 4:36 AM

I don't think that's possible right now, the best you're going to get is to have an AssetsAssets directory in some common path and reference that from both projects i.e. for the console/desktop app, <Content Include="../Assets/**/*.*" CopyToOutputDirectory="CopyIfNewer" CopyToPublishDirectory="CopyIfNewer" /><Content Include="../Assets/**/*.*" CopyToOutputDirectory="CopyIfNewer" CopyToPublishDirectory="CopyIfNewer" />; and for Android <AndroidAsset Include="../Assets/**/*.*" /><AndroidAsset Include="../Assets/**/*.*" />

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 4:37 AM

I'll give that a shot a bit later then, i'll let you know if that works. Very much appreciated on this, I've had a very poor time finding documentation on how to do this, so thank you!

Perksey•7/14/24, 4:38 AM

yeah some of the .NET for Android SDK interactions aren't that well documented, but happy to be of help

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 4:40 AM

Yeah for sure, I've done some crazy stuff and figured out weird APIs but .NET Android stuff it's like it may as well not exist

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 4:40 AM

Just keep getting Xamarin stuff that I know is outdated

PPerksey yeah some of the .NET for Android SDK interactions aren't that well documented, ...

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 5:32 AM

Hey that seemed to solve most of the problems, thanks again!

One other thing left to do which is making some of the libraries target .NET 8 and .NET 8 Android so I can use Android specific code for certain things.. fun times

PPerksey I don't think that's possible right now, the best you're going to get is to have...

iDrmzIt•7/14/24, 7:15 AM

Coming back to this, got a new open question.
I've got the following

    <AndroidAsset Include="../Content/**/*.*">
      <CopyToOutputDirectory>PreserveNewest</CopyToOutputDirectory>
    </AndroidAsset>

    <AndroidAsset Include="../Content/**/*.*">
      <CopyToOutputDirectory>PreserveNewest</CopyToOutputDirectory>
    </AndroidAsset>

in my .csproj for the android project, but when I do this particular syntax it removes all folder structure and adds everything from Content into the base. Calling AssetManager.List("");AssetManager.List(""); gives me the 3 defaults plus my 14 assets instead of the 3 defaults + the content folder.

sowa705•7/14/24, 11:20 AM

https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/13/game_raptor_intel lmao

Intel accused of selling ‘defective’ Raptor Lake CPUs

High-end processor instability headaches, failures pushed one studio to switch to AMD

sowa705•7/14/24, 11:20 AM

also this: https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression Failures

RAD Game Tools' web page. RAD makes Bink
Video, the Telemetry Performance Visualization System, and Oodle Data Compression - all popular video game middleware.

PPerksey i'll add you back to the lawless channel, you surrendered it when you left

Sjoerd•7/14/24, 12:05 PM

sounds fun, can i join?

queenvicky•7/14/24, 9:14 PM

not quite Silk related but I quite like the result:
Voronoi tesselating a Minecraft world

queenvicky•7/14/24, 9:14 PM

queenvicky•7/14/24, 9:15 PM

left is simply voronoi, right is larger voronoi cells and noise offsets before sampling

TechnicJelle•7/14/24, 9:15 PM

I LOVE VORONOI PATTERNS WOOOO

TechnicJelle•7/14/24, 9:16 PM

that looks great!!!!!

queenvicky•7/14/24, 9:16 PM

but have you ever seen a

queenvicky•7/14/24, 9:16 PM

(I actually like those even more)

TTechnicJelle that looks great!!!!!

queenvicky•7/14/24, 9:16 PM

thanks!

AquaOP•7/15/24, 10:58 PM

dear god what have i done

AquaOP•7/15/24, 10:58 PM

i aint stopping until i have at least 50 of the same fucking cube on screen at once

SineѶeҀҬOӶ⒉⓸⎤ᚙ▟ ▞╸•7/16/24, 5:27 AM

Heh. Starting to lay out foundations for my renderer.

AAqua i aint stopping until i have at least 50 of the same fucking cube on screen at o...

sowa705•7/16/24, 9:23 AM

My engine can do that... at the expense of 500mb vram per camera lmao

sowa705•7/16/24, 9:23 AM

I need to properly implement image aliasing for post processing

queenvicky•7/16/24, 5:19 PM

why should it hurt performance if I reference the DictionaryDictionary object as its interface type IDictionaryIDictionary

queenvicky•7/16/24, 5:20 PM

Visual studio is telling me to use the implementation type for "better performance" but I don't quite see why

Perksey•7/16/24, 5:24 PM

virtual calls

Perksey•7/16/24, 5:24 PM

if you use the concrete type, the dictionary APIs are non-virtual which means that no vtable lookup is needed

Perksey•7/16/24, 5:25 PM

the JIT can elide vtable lookups occasionally, and PGO also kicks in after a while in practice, but all of these are inconsistent optimisations that it's better to do the right thing for in the first instance anyway

queenvicky•7/17/24, 11:48 AM

ah thanks - seems sensible

queenvicky•7/17/24, 11:48 AM

row major order >>>>>>>>>>> column major order

queenvicky•7/17/24, 11:49 AM

I don't know who had the (not so very) great idea at W3 to specify matrices in column major order but it's annoying

queenvicky•7/17/24, 11:49 AM

thank you.

Perksey•7/17/24, 7:57 PM

@jan Peli setting up mastodon atm. setup the server, added webfinger to my root domain to redirect to the subdomain, how do I make this actually useful?

Perksey•7/17/24, 7:57 PM

like how do i make this actually function as a social media app haha

Perksey•7/17/24, 7:57 PM

and federate etc

Lyris the Kitori•7/17/24, 7:58 PM

join proxies, follow lots of people

Lyris the Kitori•7/17/24, 7:58 PM

and be ready to add dozens of servers to your blocklist

Without getting political (although I swear there used to be a channel that was "lawless" here..), w

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