personally I’m not a “flight” guy, but I will defo get MFG modded pedals, the only issue I currently

personally I’m not a “flight” guy, but I will defo get MFG modded pedals, the only issue I currently face with that is lack of space, fitting everything into simracing rig is damn challenge

XXaero Zero personally I’m not a “flight” guy, but I will defo get MFG modded pedals, the on...

Austringer•8/29/24, 3:14 PM

I like MFG, but I prefer Winwing because of the ability to quickly remove the spring. this is huge for helo pilots.

Austringer•8/29/24, 3:15 PM

particularly when you fly fixed wing as well

AAustringer I like MFG, but I prefer Winwing because of the ability to quickly remove the sp...

Xaero ZeroOP•8/29/24, 3:18 PM

i think Winwing might not fit into 50cm space I have (
but if you already have pedals itself, adding ffb is nobrainer there, the cost is not that big tbh

AAustringer I like MFG, but I prefer Winwing because of the ability to quickly remove the sp...

Xaero ZeroOP•8/29/24, 3:22 PM

speaking of spring, with FFB pedals you can do that on fly in software (remove spring), @Hiob can assert on that more as I’m not that qualified with pedals

AAustringer I like MFG, but I prefer Winwing because of the ability to quickly remove the sp...

SamNFTY•8/29/24, 3:22 PM

How much easier is it to remove on the WW? The MFG isn't hard to remove

Xaero ZeroOP•8/29/24, 3:24 PM

with ffb it should as quick as profile swap / move slider I guess )

AAustringer I like MFG, but I prefer Winwing because of the ability to quickly remove the sp...

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:32 PM

Well the FFB mod for the Crosswinds, there is no need anymore to remove the spring. Just have different profiles set for different Aircraft or change the setting on the fly.

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:34 PM

In fact the spring needs to be removed for the mod.

SSamNFTY How much easier is it to remove on the WW? The MFG isn't hard to remove

Austringer•8/29/24, 3:48 PM

5 seconds

Col. Sanders•8/29/24, 3:49 PM

Should take about the same time to remove the MFG. But as Hiob said that's one of the benefits of the FFB mod.

AAustringer I like MFG, but I prefer Winwing because of the ability to quickly remove the sp...

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:03 PM

There is no “spring” in FFB pedals (in fact, the conversion mod removes the spring). It’s entirely controlled in software. With TelemFFB there wouldn’t be any config to change between aircraft, you would just setup the pedals the way you want it to feel, and then everytime you fly that aircraft telemffb sets it up for you

Aamadeus There is no “spring” in FFB pedals (in fact, the conversion mod removes the spri...

Austringer•8/29/24, 6:18 PM

Yeah I know how FFB works ;). This was more of a cost-benefit question it will probably cost 300-350 to convert

AAustringer Yeah I know how FFB works ;). This was more of a cost-benefit question it will p...

Hiob•8/29/24, 7:40 PM

That‘s about right. More if you can’t print yourself and need a service, It‘s definitely enthusiast level stuff.

HHiob That‘s about right. More if you can’t print yourself and need a service, It‘s de...

Austringer•8/29/24, 7:42 PM

I can print, and design parts

AAustringer Yeah I know how FFB works ;). This was more of a cost-benefit question it will p...

amadeus•8/29/24, 7:54 PM

apologies, i misunderstood the thread of convo

Aamadeus apologies, i misunderstood the thread of convo 🙏

Austringer•8/29/24, 8:32 PM

No worries

AAustringer I can print, and design parts

SamNFTY•8/29/24, 8:51 PM

Do you have the MFG V3?

SamNFTY•8/29/24, 8:53 PM

I don't have the design expertise or even a 3D printer to adapt Hiob's design for the V3

SSamNFTY I don't have the design expertise or even a 3D printer to adapt Hiob's design fo...

Hiob•8/29/24, 8:56 PM

I‘m on it!

HHiob I‘m on it!

SamNFTY•8/29/24, 9:00 PM

Oh hell yeah!

SSamNFTY Do you have the MFG V3?

Austringer•8/29/24, 9:05 PM

Winwing skywalker

Sslowmover One question. If I fly multycrew with heuy as pilot and the copilot is flying th...

Gumby•8/30/24, 5:43 AM

Bumping this^^^

I still think it’d be an awesome implementation.

Regarding potential injury, the stick can jump around just as much from the FFB when you crash or do a hard landing, so what’s the difference?

VPforceBot•8/30/24, 7:33 AM

:package:

RHINO #0671 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•8/30/24, 7:59 AM

:package:

RHINO #0672 Has Shipped!

Sslowmover One question. If I fly multycrew with heuy as pilot and the copilot is flying th...

Scarlet•8/30/24, 9:26 AM

OMG that would make teaching SOOOO much better!! Being able to follow along with the student's inputs and feel exactly how much they overcontrol XD

SScarlet OMG that would make teaching SOOOO much better!! Being able to follow along with...

Gumby•8/30/24, 9:41 AM

There’s that, plus handing over controls would be more seamless. Instead of having to enable and look at controls indicator then matching then requesting control, you could just grab the stick wherever it is and request control

Arno•8/30/24, 10:32 AM

Mhhh, an internet controllable multi axis moveable actiuator that can vibrate which sits between your legs. I wonder what alternative uses people might come up with? Mighh be a whole new world of enthousiasts for this!

AArno Mhhh, an internet controllable multi axis moveable actiuator that can vibrate wh...

SamNFTY•8/30/24, 10:42 AM

Gumby•8/30/24, 10:56 AM

There’s always one lol.

I genuinely don’t understand all the “mechanics” regarding this sort of thing. I’m just thinking:

1) if my Rhino can move all around from blade flap, buffeting, crashes and anything else;

And

2) DCS can show, via the controls indicator, what the other multicrew pilot’s inputs are;

Then

3) is there something that can or cannot allow that data being shown, in the controls indicator, to be exported to the FFB function in the Rhino?

GGumby There’s that, plus handing over controls would be more seamless. Instead of havi...

Scarlet•8/30/24, 11:18 AM

Exactly. And with the ME set to "Equally Responsible" the handoff is instant both ways. Would really cut down on the Woh Boy

SScarlet Exactly. And with the ME set to "Equally Responsible" the handoff is instant bot...

Gumby•8/30/24, 11:22 AM

Right. Because you either enable the control indicator and try to match, or you ride the roller coaster lol

GGumby Right. Because you either enable the control indicator and try to match, or you ...

Scarlet•8/30/24, 11:23 AM

And I don't like having magic UI like that up soo...Buckel Up!!

VPforceBot•8/30/24, 11:25 AM

:package:

RHINO #0673 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•8/30/24, 11:46 AM

:package:

RHINO #0674 Has Shipped!

AArno Mhhh, an internet controllable multi axis moveable actiuator that can vibrate wh...

buzzbomb•8/30/24, 1:20 PM

heh back in the late 90s we joked about the downfall of civilization because people would never leave the house and stop having babies because of this tech. My friend coined the term 'teledildonics' for such tech

jskibo•8/30/24, 1:33 PM

Got a nice package of parts this morning, just waiting on the other package. Going to be a long weekend

Bbuzzbomb heh back in the late 90s we joked about the downfall of civilization because peo...

Arno•8/30/24, 2:51 PM

Thrustmaster will be puzzled about the curious new grips with warthog connector that might hit the market if this thing flies in certain circles.

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 1:42 AM

Is it possible to shorten the stem of the Rhino base connector, or is it mechanically required to be long?

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 1:43 AM

I'm thinking since I will be installing a metal threaded connector, I may as well print a shorter underlying stem for easier sidestick use.

SSpelljammer1 Is it possible to shorten the stem of the Rhino base connector, or is it mechani...

DARRYL•8/31/24, 2:04 AM

@Hiob has a stubby version of the stick connector STL that he posted recently, probably in the diy-builds channel. I plan to use it soon, but you should ask him how it is to operate.

SSpelljammer1 I'm thinking since I will be installing a metal threaded connector, I may as wel...

Austringer•8/31/24, 3:42 AM

Why as a side stick?

DDARRYL @Hiob has a stubby version of the stick connector STL that he posted recently, p...

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:50 AM

What do you mean, how to operate?
It is one piece opposed to the two piece assembly of the Rhino, about 6cm shorter effectively IIRC. The only thing you have to take into account is, that the thread connector sits on the hight of the throw limiter. So the throw is limited even further unless you modify the throw limiter and make it wider (which is no problem though).
A FFB as a sidestick is a soso idea in my opinion as well. Every Aircraft that REALLY profits big time from FFB (warbirds, helicopters, steam punk) has a central mounted stick with s long throw. Sidesticks are only found in FBW jets like the F-16 or A320. If asked, I wouldn‘t recommend it.
But of course everybody is free to do as he likes!

HHiob What do you mean, how to operate? It is one piece opposed to the two piece asse...

DARRYL•8/31/24, 6:52 AM

I said how it is to operate, not how to operate it. Which you answered.

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:53 AM

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:56 AM

I don’t use it as an overall „short“ stick though, but to try to keep the total length at bay while using a 20cm gooseneck extension.

DARRYL•8/31/24, 7:04 AM

Good point, I guess that's my plan too. Just shorten overall length a bit to prevent my 200mm s-curve extension from being too much. A shorty sidestick is another beast altogether. I had originally planned on buying a MOZA (which is a "stubby" already), but changed my mind as I learned more about my options.

DDARRYL Good point, I guess that's my plan too. Just shorten overall length a bit to pre...

Hiob•8/31/24, 7:12 AM

Depending on how your extension is build, you can shorten that too. Mine was a bent aluminium tube with some machined parts that were screwed in with two screws each. I just disassembled it, cut the tube 15mm on one end (as much as possible before the curve), drilled a new hole and reassembled.

HHiob Click to see attachment

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:33 AM

This looks like the solution for me! Maybe I need to edit it a little bit so it is not exactly threads hitting the throw limiter, but a tiny bit below them. Do you mind sharing the file?

AAustringer Why as a side stick?

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:35 AM

I swap between side stick and centerstick. Mainly cockpit reasons for side stick. Irrelevant however: easier to add extensions when you need length for the center stick. Problems with height emerge when mounting a taller stick on the side-stick-mounted OG Rhino. So I'd rather address that, looks like it is @Hiob to the rescue!

SSpelljammer1 This looks like the solution for me! Maybe I need to edit it a little bit so it ...

Hiob•8/31/24, 7:37 AM

I can give you the STL (sorry, I have no parametric cad file for it), but I think I made it as short as possible without compromising any function or strength.

personally I’m not a “flight” guy, but I will defo get MFG modded pedals, the only issue I currently

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