Is there a specific form or something to order the winwing adapter separately? I did not initially t

Is there a specific form or something to order the winwing adapter separately? I did not initially think I had a need for it but I decided to pull the trigger on getting one of their sticks. Need the adapter to run in my gooseneck.

MMerc Is there a specific form or something to order the winwing adapter separately? I...

Fr4Ged•2/18/25, 5:58 AM

http://order.vpforce.eu/
It is on here

Google Docs

VPforce Order Request

Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

TonyDarkZero•2/18/25, 9:29 AM

Anyone using a Winwing F-16 stick with Rhino FFB base? Does the base recognise all of the stick inputs? Thanks

TTonyDarkZero Anyone using a Winwing F-16 stick with Rhino FFB base? Does the base recognise a...

walmis•2/18/25, 9:54 AM

Yes, all inputs are recognized (including analog inputs)

VPforceBot•2/18/25, 11:36 AM

:package:

RHINO #0908 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•2/18/25, 11:41 AM

:package:

RHINO #0909 Has Shipped!

TheSkipjack95•2/18/25, 12:54 PM

Hello, I have a question regarding stick compatibility and switching. Currently on a virpil setup, and I can tell the software to load a profile for each grip so that I can use the one most suitable to what I am flying. Is this possible too on the Rhino ?
What about button and axis limitations on said grips ? Flankr features analog ministick and brake lever, is that supported too ? I read somewhere there was a button limit

TTheSkipjack95 Hello, I have a question regarding stick compatibility and switching. Currently ...

walmis•2/18/25, 1:03 PM

Yes, all features are supported of the grips. You can change the profiles too.

TheSkipjack95•2/18/25, 1:04 PM

thanks

TonyDarkZero•2/19/25, 7:38 AM

Quest for UK based customers, Just about to order a motors kit, did you pickup VAT & Duty on your order?

TTonyDarkZero Quest for UK based customers, Just about to order a motors kit, did you pickup V...

walmis•2/19/25, 8:05 AM

VAT is not included when you order (outside the EU), you have to pay VAT on import + brokerage fees

Wwalmis VAT is not included when you order (outside the EU), you have to pay VAT on impo...

TonyDarkZero•2/19/25, 8:13 AM

Morning, are you aware of the brokerage fees? Many thanks

walmis•2/19/25, 8:28 AM

I'm not aware of the exact amount in the UK, at least here it's about 30EUR when importing stuff from outside the EU

Bob Bushman•2/19/25, 8:30 AM

If I remember, UK has a 20% vat on most things.

Bob Bushman•2/19/25, 8:32 AM

€30 would be about the fee fedex charges for the task of charging you the vat.

Bob Bushman•2/19/25, 8:34 AM

In addition to regular shipping.

TTonyDarkZero Quest for UK based customers, Just about to order a motors kit, did you pickup V...

Blackrat•2/19/25, 8:49 AM

I got charged £12.75 by Fedex on my Rhino kit plus a motor for direct processing fee, then add your 20% VAT on

Blackrat•2/19/25, 8:50 AM

If its below £150 total you may not get a VAT charge

Bob Bushman•2/19/25, 8:53 AM

Dhl can be the worst, I got €40 fee for them charging me €30 in vat once.

Youtch•2/19/25, 12:13 PM

Can the data sent from DCS to TelemFFB when starting a mission to configure the Spring Force for the specific module be visualized somewhere? Does it appear in any logs from DCS or TelemFFB? I am trying to reverse engineer what is th Spring Value set by DCS for each module. Many thanks in advance, Y.

VPforceBot•2/19/25, 12:24 PM

:package:

RHINO #0910 Has Shipped!

YYoutch Can the data sent from DCS to TelemFFB when starting a mission to configure the ...

Number481•2/19/25, 12:32 PM

DCS simply starts a spring effect and modifies the coefficient value of the effect which equates to the strength. If you look at the debug tab in configurator you can see what the coefficient value is for the active spring effect at any given time.

Keep in mind it will always be 0-4096, regardless of how you have your other configurator settings set. DCS has no idea what your spring gain slider is set to. That simply acts as a multiplier on top of the gain value set in the effect itself.

The spring effect managed by DCS is typically ID:5

Youtch•2/19/25, 1:26 PM

Many thanks!
Is this coefficient fixed for each module or does it change with other parameters such as deviation or speed? Is there any dynamic aspect?
I understand that this coefficient implies the following %, assuming saturation = 100%
F16 X = 99% = Maximum; Y= 50%
F18 X/Y = 99% = Maximum
HUEY X/Y = 1% = Minimum
A10 X/Y = 99% = Maximum
F14 - X/Y = 99% = Maximum
I am surprised the information coming from DCS modules regarding configuration of FFB is so basic.

Youtch•2/19/25, 1:30 PM

A10 - Center Y =-2626
F14 - Center Y =-1639
(hence, the reason why A10/F14 have a different position of the stick)

YYoutch Many thanks! Is this coefficient fixed for each module or does it change with ot...

Number481•2/19/25, 1:44 PM

It depends on the module. In general however,
Warbirds and the like will vary with airspeed
FBW aircaft like the F18 will by static
Helicopters will be static. Spring force will go to 0 when trim release is pressed

The F4 has the most advanced implementation. The gain varies by airspeed and the bobweight is simulated by shifting the centerpoint in response to g-loading.

In aircraft where the stick moves in response to trim input, that will also be handled by the centerpoint of the spring effect.

NNumber481 It depends on the module. In general however, Warbirds and the like will vary ...

Youtch•2/19/25, 1:47 PM

Where can we read about this implementation for F14 and F4?

Number481•2/19/25, 1:53 PM

Best bet would be to search the relevant subsection of the forums. Its not documented anywhere by HB that I've ever seen

Youtch•2/19/25, 1:54 PM

Which subsection it would be telemffb dev?

Number481•2/19/25, 1:59 PM

I mean the DCS forums.

HrEple•2/19/25, 2:46 PM

It is annoying to have the A10, F4 and F14 sticks so far forward by default. I've been successfull at least somewhat in tweaking it back with a setting suggested here. Might be endstops

libertyshield•2/19/25, 9:44 PM

Anyone considering upgrading to new VIRPIL R1 Falcon pedals? My Ace interceptors are still on back order (with Flankr) so wonder if it makes sense change them or that will lead to more delays

TTonyDarkZero Quest for UK based customers, Just about to order a motors kit, did you pickup V...

CaptainNel•2/19/25, 11:25 PM

I was £67 extra before fedex would deliver the kit

red_one•2/20/25, 9:53 AM

Anybody having FFb issues with dcs since today's patch?

Rred_one Anybody having FFb issues with dcs since today's patch?

Anthony•2/20/25, 9:58 AM

How, what kind?

red_one•2/20/25, 10:17 AM

take off in 14
put gear up
start getting left-right stick wobbles

red_one•2/20/25, 10:17 AM

reslot
wobbles persist

VPforceBot•2/20/25, 1:54 PM

:package:

RHINO #0913 Has Shipped!

Rred_one take off in 14 put gear up start getting left-right stick wobbles

Stryker990•2/20/25, 5:56 PM

restart software / PC and thing i made an oppsi is: make sure your profile isnt set to be a chopper had that on the mirage F1 accidentally put it to chopper and the moment i went to fast it just went ballistic with the overspeed turbulences since a chopper normally aint fying 500 kts

The Greatest of all Fords•2/20/25, 7:25 PM

Anyone else having trim not working with helos after last patch? Like, when I keep pressing the trim button it works normally, but when released it springs back to center