https://pragprog.com/titles/apapps/serverless-apps-on-cloudflare/ this one? I hear it’s quite good �

https://pragprog.com/titles/apapps/serverless-apps-on-cloudflare/ this one? I hear it’s quite good

(and yes I am the author, so a little bit of a shameless plug - reviews are incredibly positive though on Goodreads + general feedback I’ve heard, and happy to hear any feedback you have if you pick it up!)

Serverless Apps on Cloudflare

See how serverless technologies help you build and scale your applications. This hands-on book shows you how to exploit Cloudflare's global platform in your next project.

Red•3/12/25, 6:42 PM

o/
Anyone here doing preview environments with separate d1 databases?
I'm experimenting with creating and dropping d1 databases for each github PR created/closed on our base repo, and I wanted to know if there is a blog post or anyone doing the same thing ^^

AAshley https://pragprog.com/titles/apapps/serverless-apps-on-cloudflare/ this one? I he...

RobbBoss•3/12/25, 7:03 PM

Now you've heard of it @Leo

Looks pretty useful and relevant. Thank you for the link @Ashley

Silvan•3/12/25, 7:33 PM

small question regarding the storage api. is it possible to somehow type keys?

import { DurableObject } from "cloudflare:workers";

export class Counter extends DurableObject<Env> {
  async getCounterValue() {
    const value: number = (await this.ctx.storage.get("value")) || 0;
    return value;
  }
}

import { DurableObject } from "cloudflare:workers";

export class Counter extends DurableObject<Env> {
  async getCounterValue() {
    const value: number = (await this.ctx.storage.get("value")) || 0;
    return value;
  }
}

instead of needing to say value: number or well get<number>

sumit•3/12/25, 10:20 PM

which framework behaves the best on cloudflare pages currently?

top 3 choices please

JJames Fwiw I would still encourage folks to use Assets wherever possible over Pages. C...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:24 PM

oh i wasn't aware of this - pages is being deprecated?

last i used it 2 years ago and my experience with pages with next.js wasn't great (due to not next.js not behaving well with pages)

sumit•3/12/25, 10:24 PM

now im confused - what's the stable alternative to pages?

Ssumit oh i wasn't aware of this - pages is being deprecated? last i used it 2 years ...

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:26 PM

worker assets

Ssumit which framework behaves the best on cloudflare pages currently? top 3 choices p...

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:26 PM

realistically anything non nextjs

SSilvan realistically anything non nextjs

sumit•3/12/25, 10:27 PM

best behaving framework for it?

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:27 PM

i dont think that exists choose your favourite

sumit•3/12/25, 10:27 PM

assets/pages - whatever is stable

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:27 PM

been building with sveltekit for a while now not a single issue

SSilvan i dont think that exists choose your favourite

sumit•3/12/25, 10:28 PM

that's a false statement, some frameworks work better with cloudflare's server approach

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:28 PM

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/frameworks/

Cloudflare Docs

Frameworks · Cloudflare Workers docs

Create full-stack applications deployed to Cloudflare Workers.

Ssumit that's a false statement, some frameworks work better with cloudflare's server a...

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:28 PM

what is your definition of “better” here

sumit•3/12/25, 10:30 PM

something @Walshy | Workers/Pages would recommend that would cause the least pain building with cloudflare (less pain, more stability, more alignment etc)

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i don't often ssr tbh, it's more work than i spend on the sites i build - i usually react csr + vite

but, for the few sites i do ssr i astro + react, works great.

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i know sveltekit is very popular too

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

remix also works but is not my personal taste

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i still think the only outlier here is nextjs

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

and wip https://orange-js.dev/

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

yeah nextjs is... hard. they make it hard for anyone that aren't them to support

sumit•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

does remix behave well with cloudflare?

it fit my bill - old + less pain

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

it does

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

i mean it really also depends what you are doing

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

hono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

yeah could also do that

SSilvan hono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well

sumit•3/12/25, 10:34 PM

too new, i like stability with stack

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty sure hono jsx is older than that

sumit•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

thanks folks

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

if you want to ai your stuff together remix/react if you want ssr i love sveltekit

SSilvan most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

yeah that's what I don't like about next (amongst hundreds of other things)

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into React Router

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Just because then it's no longer a framework, really... it's a package that does a lot of things.

infiniteloop3r•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Has anybody gotten nodejs_compat_populate_process_envnodejs_compat_populate_process_env to work yet? I have a repro of it not functioning for a newly created repo with everything up to date. Deets: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/the-new-process-env-support-in-cloudflare-workers-does-not-work-properly/778592/2

IIsaac McFadyen Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into R...

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

i thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migrating no?

SSilvan i thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migratin...

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

Yes but I don't trust codemods, they're never perfect.

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

i dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner. but that isnt even in the docs yet and brand new as well

sumit•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

just the name has changed for remix

SSilvan i dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

tanstack is too new for me - i like stability in web frameworks

Ssumit oh i wasn't aware of this - pages is being deprecated? last i used it 2 years ...

James•3/12/25, 10:38 PM

At some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively abandoned today and hasn't received any updates for new Cloudflare bindings and things in about a year, with many tooling versions now being outdated, nearing EOL, and with security issues.

JJames At some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively aband...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:38 PM

thank you for saving me from ruining my next few months

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:40 PM

oh btw cf people, i heard partkit got “acquired” by cf and we are getting partyserver now. too early for its own channel?

sumit•3/12/25, 10:44 PM

ok so for production webapps i guess the answer is remix?

sumit•3/12/25, 10:44 PM

i mean react router now*

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:45 PM

i have multiple production apps using sveltekit using d1,kv, cache, rate limiting etc and i have 0 issues either. workers have been stable for ages. all that changed is assets being stored on a cdn now

sumit•3/12/25, 10:46 PM

sveltekit had bugs as a framework when i tried it two years ago, im not trying it again in atleast 5 years

i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

if you are that worried about it

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

SPA + workers

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

or well jquery if you need that much trust

import { DurableObject } from "cloudflare:workers"; export class Counter extends DurableObject<Env> { async getCounterValue() { const value: number = (await this.ctx.storage.get("value")) || 0; return value; } }

https://pragprog.com/titles/apapps/serverless-apps-on-cloudflare/ this one? I hear it’s quite good �

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