Cloudflare Developers•10mo ago

i dont think that exists choose your favourite

sumit•3/12/25, 10:27 PM

assets/pages - whatever is stable

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:27 PM

been building with sveltekit for a while now not a single issue

SSilvan i dont think that exists choose your favourite

sumit•3/12/25, 10:28 PM

that's a false statement, some frameworks work better with cloudflare's server approach

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:28 PM

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/frameworks/

Cloudflare Docs

Frameworks · Cloudflare Workers docs

Create full-stack applications deployed to Cloudflare Workers.

Ssumit that's a false statement, some frameworks work better with cloudflare's server a...

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:28 PM

what is your definition of “better” here

sumit•3/12/25, 10:30 PM

something @Walshy | Workers/Pages would recommend that would cause the least pain building with cloudflare (less pain, more stability, more alignment etc)

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i don't often ssr tbh, it's more work than i spend on the sites i build - i usually react csr + vite

but, for the few sites i do ssr i astro + react, works great.

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i know sveltekit is very popular too

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

remix also works but is not my personal taste

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i still think the only outlier here is nextjs

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

and wip https://orange-js.dev/

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

yeah nextjs is... hard. they make it hard for anyone that aren't them to support

sumit•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

does remix behave well with cloudflare?

it fit my bill - old + less pain

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

it does

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

i mean it really also depends what you are doing

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

hono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well

Walshy•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

yeah could also do that

SSilvan hono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well

sumit•3/12/25, 10:34 PM

too new, i like stability with stack

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty sure hono jsx is older than that

sumit•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

thanks folks

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

if you want to ai your stuff together remix/react if you want ssr i love sveltekit

SSilvan most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

yeah that's what I don't like about next (amongst hundreds of other things)

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into React Router

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Just because then it's no longer a framework, really... it's a package that does a lot of things.

infiniteloop3r•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Has anybody gotten

nodejs_compat_populate_process_env

nodejs_compat_populate_process_env

to work yet? I have a repro of it not functioning for a newly created repo with everything up to date. Deets: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/the-new-process-env-support-in-cloudflare-workers-does-not-work-properly/778592/2

IIsaac McFadyen Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into R...

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

i thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migrating no?

SSilvan i thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migratin...

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

Yes but I don't trust codemods, they're never perfect.

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

i dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner. but that isnt even in the docs yet and brand new as well

sumit•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

just the name has changed for remix

SSilvan i dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

tanstack is too new for me - i like stability in web frameworks

Ssumit oh i wasn't aware of this - pages is being deprecated? last i used it 2 years ...

James•3/12/25, 10:38 PM

At some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively abandoned today and hasn't received any updates for new Cloudflare bindings and things in about a year, with many tooling versions now being outdated, nearing EOL, and with security issues.

JJames At some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively aband...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:38 PM

thank you for saving me from ruining my next few months

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:40 PM

oh btw cf people, i heard partkit got “acquired” by cf and we are getting partyserver now. too early for its own channel?

sumit•3/12/25, 10:44 PM

ok so for production webapps i guess the answer is remix?

sumit•3/12/25, 10:44 PM

i mean react router now*

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:45 PM

i have multiple production apps using sveltekit using d1,kv, cache, rate limiting etc and i have 0 issues either. workers have been stable for ages. all that changed is assets being stored on a cdn now

sumit•3/12/25, 10:46 PM

sveltekit had bugs as a framework when i tried it two years ago, im not trying it again in atleast 5 years

i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

if you are that worried about it

SilvanOP•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

SPA + workers