VPforce Controls•2y ago

Hey can someone take a look at this wiring for me? I’m well out of my depth

NNiccoSWE Hi! Just finished my Rhino build. I can't seem to be able to get the auto calibr...

Asdforce•4/28/24, 6:04 PM

Just to confirm, are you doing exactly as follows?
1. Click "Auto calibrate"
2. Click "Ok" on the pop-up screen
3. Move the stick to full deflection on both axes
4. Click "Auto calibrate" again
5. Click "Store settings"

MMagpie Hey can someone take a look at this wiring for me? I’m well out of my depth

TrigaNZ•4/28/24, 10:46 PM

Looks OK to me, PM Walmis and ask him to cast his eye over it. It's always tense hitting the power for the first time.

Wwalmis Virpil hats need additional decoding, ~~do any of the existing Virpil grip profi...

TrigaNZ•4/28/24, 11:15 PM

How is this coming along @walmis ?

AAsdforce Just to confirm, are you doing exactly as follows? 1. Click "Auto calibrate" 2. ...

NiccoSWE•4/30/24, 7:39 AM

Yes, I did. It's reverting back to the full movement and not the restricted I have with the throw limiter.

walmis•4/30/24, 7:57 AM

@Niklas [NiccoSWE] can you post a screenshot of the values after calibration?

Major_Fault•4/30/24, 8:28 AM

Hallo, any idea when the aluminum grip adapter will be available (it is on back order at the moment).

MMajor_Fault Hallo, any idea when the aluminum grip adapter will be available (it is on back ...

walmis•4/30/24, 8:32 AM

Next batch should arrive next week

TTrigaNZ Looks OK to me, PM Walmis and ask him to cast his eye over it. It's always tense...

MagpieOP•4/30/24, 12:39 PM

I turned it on and didn’t die so that was nice

MagpieOP•4/30/24, 12:39 PM

Idk why but it didn’t come up with a raw value for the motor so I guess I have some reading to do tomorrow but it’s too late now

MagpieOP•4/30/24, 12:47 PM

Ah don’t worry, I had to turn the y axis off

MagpieOP•4/30/24, 12:50 PM

Now I can go to sleep easy

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 5:27 PM

I have had my Rhino for a few weeks. It has always felt very weak , so today I have fiddled with every setting that I can tweak and still no joy.....I did open the debug page and there is all of these line items which state: FFB_RemoveEffect (9) and (15) and (16).....So I have probably screwed something up. Can anyone help get me on the right track again?

DDennis Johnson I have had my Rhino for a few weeks. It has always felt very weak , so today I ...

Chuff•4/30/24, 5:42 PM

you don't happen to have the potentiometer knob on the base turned way down do you?

DDennis Johnson I have had my Rhino for a few weeks. It has always felt very weak , so today I ...

TheAmazinGreat•4/30/24, 6:20 PM

There should be a default profile to load in the configs directory of the configurator. Also you can take a look at the profile sharing thread in the knowledge base to see how others have set theirs up.

TheAmazinGreat•4/30/24, 6:20 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1101903663666049134/1146758332254797847

DDennis Johnson I have had my Rhino for a few weeks. It has always felt very weak , so today I ...

walmis•4/30/24, 7:00 PM

If by weak you mean you want it more stiff at the center, you can tune the spring mapping:
🧰support

Also I recommend importing the default Rhino settings profile from

configs/RHINO-defaults.vpconf

configs/RHINO-defaults.vpconf

file, since all sliders and effects at max will cause instability and motor shutoff.

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:47 PM

@Chuff nope the knob is fully clockwise

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:49 PM

@walmis no, it feels no more stronger than my virpil at present. There is definitely something wrong or mis configured on my part

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:50 PM

what module are you flying?

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:50 PM

and are you running telemffb while in game?

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:50 PM

P51 and Huey mostly

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:50 PM

Telemffb is running

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:51 PM

not sure what the state of huey ffb support is, but the p51 has great ffb support and can get very heavy at times on the controls

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:52 PM

If I could get a P51 profile to download, maybe it would fix what ever is out of whack.

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:52 PM

does telemffb appear to working? in other words, when you load into the module in dcs you can see what module you're in in telemffb, and it's reporting what effects it's triggering?

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:53 PM

Yes. Look at the pics I uploaded and see if you can spot something if you would,please

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:53 PM

those are from the configurator. I'm talking about telemffb. different application

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:54 PM

The lower left pic is from the teleffb app

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:55 PM

what does telem show if you open the settings tab?

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:57 PM

You know, I just noticed something else, if you click on the upper right pic and look at the lower right hand corner, there seems to be motor errors….that can’t be good

Chuff•4/30/24, 7:58 PM

Yeah, I'm out of ideas for you. sorry, man. Hopefully @walmis sees your last message about the motor errors.

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 7:59 PM

I am rebooting my computer now to see if that resets anything. Do you have a P51 profile that you would share?

Chuff•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

I pretty much run it at default. just tweaked the settings to my liking in telemffb. So I turn things like runway rumble way down. Other than that I didn't do a lot of tweaking. found it to be pretty good for me out of the box

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 8:02 PM

Thanks for,your help!

Chuff•4/30/24, 8:11 PM

sorry my help wasn't more helpful. lol

DDennis Johnson Thanks for,your help!

Number481•4/30/24, 9:40 PM

FWIW, TelemFFB has naught to do with stick forces in DCS. That’s all the native FFB from the sim.

WRT the motor error, did you try the reset motor button on the debug tab?

Booker•4/30/24, 11:16 PM

I’m not getting special effects on DCS P-51. The stick itself is working great, flight control wise, the issue is that I’m not getting anything else - stall buffeting, firing guns, etc. Thanks in advance!

Booker•4/30/24, 11:17 PM

What do we do with the Rhino at the end of the day when we’re done using it? Turn off the motors with the red button? Unplug the power supply?

Dennis Johnson•4/30/24, 11:54 PM

@Number481 I rebooted computer, cycled the power on the rhino, imported the default config. Stick seems to work better now.

Booker•5/1/24, 2:06 AM

More notes to my issue above. The telemetry software seems to be working correctly. When I hold down the trigger, the gun firing effect is listed under ‘Active effects for stick’, but you don’t feel anything in the stick.

BBooker More notes to my issue above. The telemetry software seems to be working correct...

Number481•5/1/24, 2:08 AM

Can you post screenshots of both the effects and settings tab in configurator? The effects dab you did post can’t be accurate since it shows everything disabled.

Number481•5/1/24, 2:17 AM

~~Also, specifically with gunfire. Make sure you don’t have unlimited ammo enabled (or set in the mission).~~ nvm…if the effect is playing in TelemFFB, that’s not the issue.

NNumber481 Can you post screenshots of both the effects and settings tab in configurator? ...

Booker•5/1/24, 7:41 AM

Ah, maybe that’s my issue. I thought you normally have all the effects turned off and just let DCS do everything. I thought the effects were for flight sims that didn’t support FFB. What effects are normally turned on? Also, is stick shake at the stall a built-in DCS effect or is it done with telemetry?

BBooker Ah, maybe that’s my issue. I thought you normally have all the effects turned of...

Number481•5/1/24, 11:09 AM

A simplified description of how it works is:
- Effects tab sets the limitations for the sliders on the settings tab
- Settings tab sliders set the limitations on what a game can command via DirectX FFB
Together they sort of define the maximum capabilities and characteristics of the device.

Example: A game will just say "set spring to %50". It has no idea what is set in configurator. The resulting force you feel will be the spring settings in

Effects Tab

Effects Tab

Settings Tab

Settings Tab

* %50.

I recommend importing and starting with the default rhino configurator profile (in the configs directory in your configurator install).

WRT stick shake. Depends on the module. Some have stall buffeting built-in. However, that is the only "haptic" type effect that is part of the native FFB from DCS.

NNumber481 A simplified description of how it works is: - Effects tab sets the limitations ...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/1/24, 12:51 PM

I’m busy soaking up as much of this as I can… got a shipping notification on my kit so now I gotta seriously study this software.

Thanks to you and everyone out here “solving” these issues I honestly hope when it comes to my time I can use some of what I’ve picked up to help myself out of a jam.

Little tips like how when it’s set to unlimited Ammo the counter doesn’t move so you don’t get FFB gunfire effect.

Stuff like that seems like nothing but it’s sort of a big deal when troubleshooting so I appreciate all the tips and tricks you guys post.

NNumber481 A simplified description of how it works is: - Effects tab sets the limitations ...

Booker•5/1/24, 11:37 PM

Ok, everything working now. A Windows reboot has everything working. Turns out it works just fine even with all Effects turned off.

Col. Sanders•5/2/24, 6:58 AM

Power plug has started to fall out when I have lots of feedback. And ideas how how to keep it in?

Wwalmis @Niklas [NiccoSWE] can you post a screenshot of the values after calibration?

NiccoSWE•5/2/24, 7:20 AM

I'm using a workaroud by defining a deasspace in the Tune Axis section in DCS.

NNiccoSWE I'm using a workaroud by defining a deasspace in the Tune Axis section in DCS.

walmis•5/2/24, 7:25 AM

In your setup, encoder position wraps around, so it can be undefined at startup.
I suggest you follow the instruction about initial belt position/calibration:

CCol. Sanders Power plug has started to fall out when I have lots of feedback. And ideas how h...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/2/24, 10:31 AM

DIY or production unit?

If DIY you can take it apart and add the “Twist lock” connector.

Here is the Male 5.5 x 2.1 (same size as the Rhino plug) with “Twist lock”. Get the female and swap them out.

IF you are using a production unit ask @walmis because opening or swapping parts probably void any warranty?

So the answer is: “It depends”

But yep that’s the part you need and that’s why they lock in place

Hope that helps

Hey can someone take a look at this wiring for me? I’m well out of my depth

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