I can not understand how F4E fly. i mean i pull stick aft and always it counters FWD, it always cou
I can not understand how F4E fly. i mean i pull stick aft and always it counters FWD, it always counters to the opposite direction.
SSo if i want to fly i move stick back and also trim back otherwise it counters my input
Pcheck for double bindings??
P& no axis curves with ffb
1Yes it felt incredible after installing it!
One more question, when I change aircraft in dcs why does my vpconfig settings change? Mainly the gain and effects?
One more question, when I change aircraft in dcs why does my vpconfig settings change? Mainly the gain and effects?
PI'm not sure about that? Is it trying to load a different profile for a new module? Sorry you might need to take that one to support channel
1I dunno, I stored the config ect…. Had me puzzled
1It’s like when telemffb changed Aircraft it’s reverting back to something
Pstore config means that's the default config that the rhino will load & use, so even if you don't turn on the config app the rhino will use the stored profile by default
1That’s what I was thinking
LI know it's unlike anything else I've flown. Bobweights and bellows maintain pitch stability in F-4E and HB modelled it. The neutral trim position moves around based on airspeed (bellows) and g (bobweights). Whether you need to trim nose down or nose up depends on what's happening to your airspeed. When it increases, to maintain level flight you trim nose down and vice versa. It's normal that you are trimming it pretty much all the time. You don't even think about it after a while.
SSo this is normal? THis is they way it should work?
Si think i am okay
LThey say you trim the real thing pretty much the whole time. The pitch stability system is not classified if you want to know more.
LThe beauty of the thing (for us) is that we don't have to think about trim. We feel it in our grip hand and it comes naturally.
LI have no idea how sprung joystick owners can fly F-4E - especially in combat
LBig part of the difficulty is the placing of the AoA indicator, I just can't see it during dogfights
L(I'm in VR)
Buse the audio cues and feel
RMy first thought after trying the F14 again.
1Any suggestions as to why when I try to recalibrate my axis one of them is 38xx in center as opposed to close to 2000?
Ayou probably need to remove the band on that axis and get it closer to numerical center and put the band back on
Athe pro tip i learned from someone else on here -- with the band off, manually set axis min to 0, and axis max to 4096, then set 100% spring, apply those settings, then while carefully trying to keep the joystick perfectly vertical, add the band back on, which should get you a pretty decent middle around the numerical middle of the motor range
Athen after that, re-calibrate the min/max values for the axis and you should be good to go
1That’s what I just did but I don’t understand why it’s not setting the center value to 2048 when recalibrating? I think everything is working ok but seeing the center seems to do nothing. Unless I’m doing something wrong. I’m following the protomaker build guide as I did the diy unit
Acenter is automatically computed between min and max
Ai wouldn't worry about it lining up exactly halfway between 0 and 4096. what you ultimately care about, is that your moveable range does not extend below 0 and above 4096
1Makes sense!
A(talking about the raw_x/y values here)
1It was exceeding it until I moved the motor manually
Ayeah, that's what i figured when you mentioned the center being so high
1Now to hopefully figure out how to get a Constant Spring effect instead of a progressive type effect
Awhat are you trying to accomplish?
1Have it act like a mag brake. The way it is now is more progressive, soft around center and “spring” gets stronger the farther out you go. I want it linear, same force over the entire range, primarily around central trimmed position though.
1I think I can accomplish this via curve
Ahmm, you could mess with spring gain most likely to accomplish this
Anot sure how well it would work in practice
Lsounds to my untrained ear what you describe is a constant force not spring force
Aconstant force is only 1 force in one direction, what i belive bama wants is still something that acts like a spring, in that it centers
Abut the force is always the same and not stronger as you move out
1Yes but with the ability to recenter
1The couple min I had earlier looked like the spring gain curve would accomplish this, essentially the motors should always have the same amps
LBe careful if you play with a constant force - I just just set it to 50% and went to effects, set a static force and it almost hit me in the nuts - hard
1The reason I want this is for rotary aircraft
LIf I had a cut-out in my seat, I wouldn't be here typing away happily 
Awhat aircraft/sims are you planning to fly?
1Dcs, mostly helicopters
Aare you just not happy with the force feedback they are giving you? or are you just attempting to re-create the ideal experience outside of the game, for the game?
Ai would say Apache and Kiowa both have pretty great FFB support, and you can use TelemFFB to refine it if necessary (can't speak for the other heli's tho)
Ai.e. -- i personally wouldn't recommend fucking with spring gain for those modules
1All the effects and ffb are very nice, but I want a better “grab” at the central position. One reason is because I use a warthog stick in a 200mm ext so it flops around pretty easily. I did the spring balance thing and that helps but it’s sooo light in the center, even with springs high