Is you grip the original T50 with the silver buttons and palm rest or the black edition like mine?

Is you grip the original T50 with the silver buttons and palm rest or the black edition like mine?

When I get plugged in I’ll snap a pic of the grip so we can compare but for sure don’t worry I’ll help you get this sorted out

MMarsvinet Even using the same settings as pictured, my brake lever isn't recognized as an ...

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 10:19 AM

I got you bro (see above)

TTouch_Of_Legend Is you grip the original T50 with the silver buttons and palm rest or the black ...

Marsvinet•9/27/24, 10:27 AM

It has the black buttons and lever

MMarsvinet It has the black buttons and lever

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 1:48 PM

Got it.

Here is a photo of the grip I use.

Virpil Mongoos T-50CM

This is the second release version called “Black Edition”

It’s the original controller as you can see we don’t have the Thumb Hat we have a Button and some of our 4 ways don’t have center press where the CM2 does and some of the 4 ways are 8 way now on the CM2.

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 1:48 PM

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 1:49 PM

See the photo on the left has no 4 way where the thumb is.

I assume yours is the same?

Or you have the OG version with silver buttons, brake, and palm rest.

Either way it’s the same we are NOT the CM2

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 1:51 PM

Below I’ll post the settings I use but “Buyer beware” I haven’t plugged it in for a while so I might be using outdated software.

When I set it up to fly I’ll redo ALL my software so it’s up to date but yeah… this was how I used it and it works great.

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 1:51 PM

And here is a video of the brake lever in action.

Works great

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 1:59 PM

Hopefully that can help but if not I’ll try to dig around and see what I actually did…

I remember having the same issue you describe like it was acting like the brake lever was a bunch of buttons and some of them were intermittently firing at random times..

Setting it to an Axis and calibrating it fixed it

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 2:15 PM

So yeah that’s how the Rhino sits for now..

I’ll get it all set up again soon once thing settle back down and I can Fly again.

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 2:15 PM

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/27/24, 2:18 PM

And yeah I’m that dude… who puts a plastic cover on top of a dust cover

TTouch_Of_Legend And yeah I’m that dude… who puts a plastic cover on top of a dust cover 🤣🤣

Hiob•9/27/24, 3:27 PM

You would get along well with my GF…..

Wwalmis Looks like the VFX grip (maybe new grip revision?) has indeed larger register th...

FZ1•9/27/24, 8:26 PM

I'm also getting this Z axis behaviour on my Virpil Alpha grip. Will that also be fixed in a future firmware update please? Thanks.

Anthony•9/28/24, 2:02 AM

Question: preordered the VPC FLNKR grip. It’s got an analog thumb stick instead of a trim hat.

If I connect the grip to the VPC software and configure it to have virtual buttons on the thumb stick reaching full X and Y deflection (so i.e. giving it virtual Up/Down & Left/Right buttons), store that to the grip and then connect it to the Rhino…

The Rhino should then be detecting those virtual buttons, right?

Anthony•9/28/24, 2:03 AM

Bit of a clumsy workaround but I don’t wanna go without a trim hat for Western planes, and there’s nothing in the Rhino software to create virtual buttons from an axis

AAnthony Question: preordered the VPC FLNKR grip. It’s got an analog thumb stick instead ...

Number481•9/28/24, 2:35 AM

1.) Nothing is stored in the grip itself on VPC hardware... only the base.
2.) Walmis is going to have to create a profile in the firmware - whomever gets theirs first will need to send him all the mappings using the debug output
3.) The mini stick on the Alpha also has button presses (or POV events) with full excursion in each direction, depending on the "hats as buttons" setting in configurator

buzzbomb•9/28/24, 4:21 AM

So, to get the [no longer produced] Virpil Delta supported in the configurator, do i just need to send the mappings in the debug output?

buzzbomb•9/28/24, 4:21 AM

even though its no longer produced, its one of my goto grips due to being ambidexterous

TTouch_Of_Legend Below I’ll post the settings I use but “Buyer beware” I haven’t plugged it in fo...

Marsvinet•9/28/24, 11:03 AM

Our configurator versions are the same and our grip serial numbers are only ~150 apart, mine being in the 1300 range. Real strange that mine acts the way it does.

NNumber481 1.) Nothing is stored in the grip itself on VPC hardware... only the base. 2.) W...

Anthony•9/28/24, 11:03 AM

Oh, I kept reading the VPC instructions as the changes being stored and saved in the grip?

But it’s reasonable to assume it’ll be possible to get virtual/POV buttons from the mini stick by default anyway then? Those wouldn’t interfere with the axes of the mini stick btw?

AAnthony Oh, I kept reading the VPC instructions as the changes being stored and saved in...

Dracks•9/28/24, 12:57 PM

Normally it's saved in the base and not the grip (unless it's new??). If you plug in Rhino + Virpil grip, it doesn't appear in the VPC configurator.

I'm also waiting for their new grip and could test all that but I'm not worried about the configuration with the Rhino base.

I imagine that with the Rhino configurator you'll still be able to choose what to do with these hats.

DDracks Normally it's saved in the base and not the grip (unless it's new??). If you plu...

Anthony•9/28/24, 1:16 PM

Yeah I know, but I’ve got the collective so reckoned I could connect the grip to it to configure it

Anthony•9/28/24, 1:16 PM

Obv a bit of a hassle, but sounds like it’s not necessary now anyway

AAnthony Yeah I know, but I’ve got the collective so reckoned I could connect the grip to...

Dracks•9/28/24, 1:21 PM

Not sure I understood your question or problem

.

What I mean is that there's no point in plugging in your grip and configuring it via vpc config tool because nothing will be saved on it. Your Rhino base and your grip will be configured via the Rhino software.

Sorry if I'm missing the point, but I don't really see the problem at this stage (apart from the fact that Walmis may have to update its software to be compatible with the latest Virpil grips).

DDracks Not sure I understood your question or problem 😉. What I mean is that there's ...

Anthony•9/28/24, 1:37 PM

The reason you’re not seeing the problem is because it appears to not exist as I’d feared when first I asked

Anthony•9/28/24, 1:38 PM

The comment you replied to was just me explaining my original train of thought

Dracks•9/28/24, 1:39 PM

Arf so sorry

. I must have misinterpreted your post

.

Well at least we seem to agree

MMarsvinet Our configurator versions are the same and our grip serial numbers are only ~150...

Touch_Of_LegendOP•9/28/24, 3:33 PM

Did you try the settings from the pic after I plugged it in?

TTouch_Of_Legend Did you try the settings from the pic after I plugged it in?

Marsvinet•9/28/24, 5:39 PM

Yup, with the CM2 grip type the center 4way isn't recognized and the brake axis isn't recognized as an axis, so no way to calibrate it

MMarsvinet Yup, with the CM2 grip type the center 4way isn't recognized and the brake axis ...

TheAmazinGreat•9/28/24, 6:11 PM

Is your configurator version the same as shown top left corner of the window? Wondering if a firmware update/tollback is required.

Marsvinet•9/28/24, 6:54 PM

Nope, same version

PiNKSH!T•9/30/24, 8:10 AM

@walmis Hey m8, what will the price be for a new style cable to make my old S/N# Rhino work with the new CNC grip mount (I already have the cnc bit).

PPiNKSH!T @walmis Hey m8, what will the price be for a new style cable to make my old S/N#...

walmis•9/30/24, 10:45 AM

Hey, it's 8 eur + ~6 shipping

*NOB*Aries•9/30/24, 8:35 PM

Hey... this just happened in DCS Tomcat... stick just went full berserk forward and the weight of the Warthog stick on Virpil extension tore the thread in half... I am putting my log and config if someone can check if ther is anything wrong.... I did not really change anything to DCS profiles... maybe just created a couple MSFS profiles...

*NOB*Aries•9/30/24, 8:36 PM

aries_rhino.zip34.8KB

amadeus•9/30/24, 9:26 PM

probably good to get the aluminum attachment, especially since the warthog grip is so heavy + an extension, that's a lot of momentum to fight against

j9murphy•9/30/24, 10:34 PM

is there any documentation/guidance for how to optimize these settings? I understand the first two, the rest are a bit of a mystery.

Aamadeus probably good to get the aluminum attachment, especially since the warthog grip ...

*NOB*Aries•9/30/24, 10:40 PM

Where can I get one?

**NOB*Aries Where can I get one?

amadeus•9/30/24, 10:44 PM

walmis has it on his order form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflUrHfM9AB0f-0WGyhOLxvXQNMr7E8TBDSYYJUBQ8kqaDC7g/viewform

Google Docs

VPforce Order Request

Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

*NOB*Aries•10/1/24, 6:51 AM

@walmis How do I order just the aluminium thread head? 200mm extension with metal Warthog stick was obviously too much for the plastic one...

walmis•10/1/24, 6:52 AM

Hey, it's via the order form one post above

*NOB*Aries•10/1/24, 6:52 AM

Thx!

Knuck👨✈•10/2/24, 1:56 AM

Hi @walmis just popped in an order form for the winwing adapter, the one I was using, the plastic screw on part that attaches to the base snapped in half and the joystick fell off. The adapter on the left is the one that broke, the one on the right was the original I ordered but it never worked. Just tried it again but it wouldn’t connect correctly in that the flight controls worked, but the functions on the joystick would not work such as the gun trigger or any other buttons. Might it have something to do with the metal surround under the arrow around the pins? The broken one doesn’t have one and all functions worked normally……just a thought. Cheers.

KKnuck👨✈Hi @walmis just popped in an order form for the winwing adapter, the one I was u...

VKNG•10/2/24, 3:04 AM

Have you checked to make sure you have Winwing selected under the grip drop down in VP CONFIG?

VKNG•10/2/24, 3:04 AM

I had the same issue until I was told to do this.

VVKNG Have you checked to make sure you have Winwing selected under the grip drop down...

Knuck👨✈•10/2/24, 4:29 AM

I’ve been using this Winwing joystick for awhile now with my Rhino with no issues. Could changing out the adapter do that? I’ll give it a try

VKNG•10/2/24, 5:12 AM

Oh well I’m not 100% sure, I just know that was my problem with mine not working. Now that I think about it though, you do have a point. Still worth it to check. Gets you back in the seat quicker.

VVKNG Oh well I’m not 100% sure, I just know that was my problem with mine not working...

Knuck👨✈•10/2/24, 5:39 AM

Absolutely mate, thank you for your advice, cheers

KKnuck👨✈Hi @walmis just popped in an order form for the winwing adapter, the one I was u...

walmis•10/2/24, 5:40 AM

Hey, I'll send you a replacement

Wwalmis Hey, I'll send you a replacement

Knuck👨✈•10/2/24, 6:00 AM

Thanks, let me know how to pay you, my email is on the order form. Cheers

Is you grip the original T50 with the silver buttons and palm rest or the black edition like mine?

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